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Posted on 10/12/2016 12:55:54 PM PDT by grayboots

This article was posted by one of my Facebook friends (soon to be unfriended) and it infuriated me. I want to respond but I am not very eloquent with words. Any help would be appreciated.

A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains by Bobby Azarian, Raw Story

There’s no doubt that Donald Trump has said many things that would have been political suicide for any other Republican candidate. And almost every time he made one of these shocking statements, political analysts on both the left and the right predicted that he’d lose supporters because of it. But as we have clearly seen over the past year, they were dead wrong every time. Trump appears to be almost totally bulletproof.

The only thing that might be more perplexing than the psychology of Donald Trump is the psychology of his supporters. In their eyes, The Donald can do no wrong. Even Trump himself seems to be astonished by this phenomenon. “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK? It’s, like, incredible.”

Senator John McCain, who has been a regular target for Trump during his campaign, has a simple explanation for his unwavering support. “What he did was he fired up the crazies.”

While the former Republican presidential nominee may be on to something, he doesn’t exactly provide a very satisfying scientific explanation. So how exactly are Trump loyalists psychologically or neurologically different from everyone else? What is going on in their brains that makes them so blindly devoted?

The Dunning-Kruger Effect: Some believe that many of those who support Donald Trump do so because of ignorance — basically they are under-informed or misinformed about the issues at hand. When Trump tells them that crime is skyrocketing in the United States, or that the economy is the worst it’s ever been, they simply take his word for it.

The seemingly obvious solution would be to try to reach those people through political ads, expert opinions, and logical arguments that educate with facts. Except none of those things seem to be swaying any Trump supporters from his side, despite great efforts to deliver this information to them directly.

The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed. This creates a double burden.

Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise. As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” Essentially, they’re not smart enough to realize they’re dumb.

And if one is under the illusion that they have sufficient or even superior knowledge, then they have no reason to defer to anyone else’s judgment. This helps explain why even nonpartisan experts — like military generals and Independent former Mayor of New York/billionaire CEO Michael Bloomberg — as well as some respected Republican politicians, don’t seem to be able to say anything that can change the minds of loyal Trump followers.

Out of immense frustration, some of us may feel the urge to shake a Trump supporter and say, “Hey! Don’t you realize that he’s an idiot?!” No. They don’t. That may be hard to fathom, but that’s the nature of the Dunning-Kruger effect — one’s ignorance is completely invisible to them.

Hypersensitivity to Threat Science has unequivocally shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening. A classic study in the journal Science found that conservatives have a stronger physiological reaction to startling noises and graphic images compared to liberals. A brain-imaging study published in Current Biology revealed that those who lean right politically tend to have a larger amygdala — a structure that is electrically active during states of fear and anxiety. And a 2014 fMRI study found that it is possible to predict whether someone is a liberal or conservative simply by looking at their brain activity while they view threatening or disgusting images, such as mutilated bodies. Specifically, the brains of self-identified conservatives generated more activity overall in response to the disturbing images.

So how does this help explain the unbridled loyalty of Trump supporters? These brain responses are automatic, and not influenced by logic or reason. As long as Trump continues his fear mongering by constantly portraying Muslims and Mexican immigrants as imminent dangers, many conservative brains will involuntarily light up like light bulbs being controlled by a switch. Fear keeps his followers energized and focused on safety. And when you think you’ve found your protector, you become less concerned with remarks that would normally be seen as highly offensive.

Terror Management Theory A well-supported theory from social psychology, called Terror Management Theory, explains why Trump’s fear mongering is doubly effective.

The theory is based on the fact that humans have a unique awareness of their own mortality. The inevitably of one’s death creates existential terror and anxiety that is always residing below the surface. In order to manage this terror, humans adopt cultural worldviews — like religions, political ideologies, and national identities — that act as a buffer by instilling life with meaning and value.

Terror Management Theory predicts that when people are reminded of their own mortality, which happens with fear mongering, they will more strongly defend those who share their worldviews and national or ethnic identity, and act out more aggressively towards those who do not. Hundreds of studies have confirmed this hypothesis, and some have specifically shown that triggering thoughts of death tends to shift people towards the right.

Not only do death reminders increase nationalism, they influence actual voting habits in favor of more conservative presidential candidates. And more disturbingly, in a study with American students, scientists found that making mortality salient increased support for extreme military interventions by American forces that could kill thousands of civilians overseas. Interestingly, the effect was present only in conservatives, which can likely be attributed to their heightened fear response.

By constantly emphasizing existential threat, Trump creates a psychological condition that makes the brain respond positively rather than negatively to bigoted statements and divisive rhetoric. Liberals and Independents who have been puzzled over why Trump hasn’t lost supporters after such highly offensive comments need look no further than Terror Management Theory.

High Attentional Engagement According to a recent study that monitored brain activity while participants watched 40 minutes of political ads and debate clips from the presidential candidates, Donald Trump is unique in his ability to keep the brain engaged. While Hillary Clinton could only hold attention for so long, Trump kept both attention and emotional arousal high throughout the viewing session. This pattern of activity was seen even when Trump made remarks that individuals didn’t necessarily agree with. His showmanship and simple messages clearly resonate at a visceral level.

Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction with entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained.

Of course these explanations do not apply to all Trump supporters. In fact, some are likely intelligent people who know better, but are supporting Trump to be rebellious or to introduce chaos into the system. They may have such distaste for the establishment and Hillary Clinton that their vote for Trump is a symbolic middle finger directed at Washington.

So what can we do to potentially change the minds of Trump loyalists before voting day in November? As a cognitive neuroscientist, it grieves me to say that there may be nothing we can do. The overwhelming majority of these people may be beyond reach, at least in the short term. The best we can do is to motivate everyone else to get out to the booths and check the box that doesn’t belong to a narcissistic nationalist who has the potential to damage the nation beyond repair.

Bobby Azarian is a neuroscientist affiliated with George Mason University and a science writer. His research has been published in journals such as Cognition & Emotion and Psychonomic Bulletin & Review, and he has written for The New York Times, Scientific American, Psychology Today, Slate, The Daily Beast, and The Huffington Post. He also runs the website Science Is Sexy. Follow him @BobbyAzarian. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/a-neuroscientist-explains-what-may-be-wrong-with-trump-supporters-brains/


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To: needmorePaine
This may not be a great answer, but I don't see any value in offering a response. Based on experience, you'll just end up falling into a rabbit hole of back-and-forth comments and nothing will be accomplished.
Just unfriend. That's what I do.


Second that. UNFRIEND - you cannot win the argument.
41 posted on 10/12/2016 1:22:41 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: roses of sharon

There’s a great movie out entitled Child 44.

There was a fellow murdering young boys in the old Soviet Union.

The official Soviet position was that there could be no murder in the Soviet Union because it was paradise. Murder only happened in capitalist nations.

Interesting movie and it stars Tom Hardy.


42 posted on 10/12/2016 1:22:50 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: grayboots

Grayboots - recommend you just repost Rose of Sharon’s #19 to FaceBook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union


43 posted on 10/12/2016 1:23:32 PM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: grayboots

DC career politicians have completely lost touch with Americans. We exist for these frauds to fleece at their will, Clinton is a perfect time-proven example.


44 posted on 10/12/2016 1:23:53 PM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: grayboots

The current issues are symptoms of the problem, not the problem itself. The left is looking only at the issues, not the problem.

The problem is that our government has already deteriorated into an oligarchy and that is the key message. “Taking our country back” and “making America great again” are both taglines for restoring self-government as established by our Constitution.

The following article about a 2014 study by Princeton University Prof Martin Gilens and Northwestern University Prof Benjamin I Page, provides the exact type of “scholarly” documentation supporting the principle:

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

The person who made the original post, like the authors themselves of that post, consider themselves part of the ruling oligarchy and cannot understand why we are not happily submitting to their will. It is they, not us, who don’t know what they don’t know, and impose their observational limitations upon us in their assessment.

Perhaps this information will provide that missing information.


45 posted on 10/12/2016 1:23:54 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: grayboots

Call it “Psychobabble” because that is exactly what it is. Do not engage it further than that.


46 posted on 10/12/2016 1:24:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: grayboots

Dunning-Kruger Effect has been used for years to explain Liberals. Psychological projection going on here.


47 posted on 10/12/2016 1:26:19 PM PDT by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

This “author” is a parasite sucking-off the taxpayers for his paycheck. This loser is quite the pathetic individual.


48 posted on 10/12/2016 1:28:18 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)
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To: grayboots

I have a similar Facebook friend who has been blasting anti-Trump propaganda shared from the kook fringe for a month or more. I finally just changed my status with the person to “ignore posts, but stay friends”. I MAY rescind the block in a month or two, once this election is over... or not.


49 posted on 10/12/2016 1:29:56 PM PDT by ssaftler (2016 Election: If the establishment wins, America loses.)
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To: agere_contra

Thanks!! Just did posted it! We will see what she has to say.


50 posted on 10/12/2016 1:33:09 PM PDT by grayboots
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To: grayboots
The more psycho-babble the leftists throw at you the less concrete arguments they have.

I would simple say: I am not a psychiatrist but it seems to me that a man who engages in hyperbole is a much better choice than someone who has a 50 year track record of corruption, immortality, bad judgement and chooses a documented sexual pervert as a life partner.
Trump never
>>Insert Clinton Transgressions here<<

51 posted on 10/12/2016 1:33:28 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: grayboots

Send your unfriend this link in response.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/09/the_dc_gaslight_district.html

And then ditch him and fartbook


52 posted on 10/12/2016 1:34:38 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: grayboots
Prov 23:9 says it best:

"Don't speak to a fool, for he will despise the insight of your words."

53 posted on 10/12/2016 1:36:57 PM PDT by rissole
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To: grayboots

This thirty year clinical psychologist suggests that you simply send your former friend the quote from yesterday’s Wikileaks about Hillary’s campaign needing the people to remain “unaware and compliant” so that they can win, and that they’re afraid the sheeple are no longer compliant - then say goodbye and don’t look back.....


54 posted on 10/12/2016 1:37:11 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: grayboots

You can’t fight a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Take the high road and don’t waste your valuable time.


55 posted on 10/12/2016 1:42:00 PM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: grayboots

If Azarian were a psychologist or a licensed psychologist, he could lose his license for speculating about the mental health of someone. It is only because he is an academic that he is “free” to speculate.

Surveys indicate that, outside of business, economics, engineering, and medicine, university professors are overwhelmingly leftwing. There probably are more communists in departments of psychology than there are Republicans. This means that professors from the liberal arts and humanities have no peer pressure to be fair with people from the right. They and other elitists actually do think the majority of Trump’s supporters are deplorable and irredeemable.

When they get power, they will indoctrinate our children, and when they get enough power they will attempt to re-educate us as well. This is the future of America, as we now stand.

One way to characterize Donald Trump is that is a Type A personality (as opposed to a Type B). He is an ambitious, rigidly organized, highly status-conscious, sensitive, impatient, anxious, proactive, and concerned with time management. People with Type A personalities are often high-achieving “workaholics.” They push themselves with deadlines, and hate both delays and ambivalence. (I’m taking his directly from Wikipedia.) This is only a profile and hardly anybody exactly mimics all the traits. That he is 70 years old and hasn’t killed or raped anybody is proof enough that he isn’t deranged. He does seem to take offense, but I notice that this is usually when he feels betrayed. This is his temperament problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_A_and_Type_B_personality_theory

A more complex “dichotomy” or classification combines is the Myers-Briggs system.

Trump seems a doer rather than a thinker
Intuitive (sees the big picture) rather than sensor (memorize a speech)
A Thinker (tells it like it is) rather than a Feeler (not hurt anybody’s feelings)
Judger (does things in an organized way) versus Perceiver (does things spontaneously)

http://www.personalitypage.com/four-prefs.html

In the Myers-Briggs shorthand, he’s a EITJ. These people are “natural-born leaders.”

https://www.16personalities.com/entj-personality

“ENTJs are characterized by an often ruthless level of rationality, using their drive, determination and sharp minds to achieve whatever end they’ve set for themselves. Perhaps it is best that they make up only three percent of the population, lest they overwhelm the more timid and sensitive personality types that make up much of the rest of the world – but we have ENTJs to thank for many of the businesses and institutions we take for granted every day.”

Hey, am I right or am I right?


56 posted on 10/12/2016 1:44:17 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: grayboots

Second Electric Graffiti. Why do you still have “friends” that are libtards? I would rather have a friend with TB.


57 posted on 10/12/2016 1:45:46 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: needmorePaine
I don't see any value in offering a response. Based on experience, you'll just end up falling into a rabbit hole of back-and-forth comments and nothing will be accomplished.

Exactly! One technique of Satan is to distract Christians into wasting all their precious time and energy in responding to his lies and nonsense. Remember, Satan is the accuser of the brethren. And the unproductive dialogue becomes *endless*. Don't waste your time or words.

Now, if someone is being reasonable and rational, then you can converse with them, if you so choose. Otherwise, cut off any communication pronto and run.

58 posted on 10/12/2016 1:46:16 PM PDT by rissole
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To: PGR88

“Replace the word “Trump” with “Cllnton” and this article may contain some truth.”

That’s the perfect answer right there.


59 posted on 10/12/2016 1:47:26 PM PDT by moovova
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To: grayboots
Hypersensitivity to Threat Science has unequivocally shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening.

He has a point there. After eight years of massive destruction, where our fundamental, God-given Constitutional rights have been seriously eroded by a communist druggie, and our kids have been saddled with an extra $9T in debt for nothing, we respond with fear as we face the threat of an even worse tyrant.

60 posted on 10/12/2016 1:53:21 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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