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Should the Mainstream Middle Class Be Rescued or Made to Sink?
Mind of Corporate Stepsister | August 2 2016 | Corporate Stepsister

Posted on 08/02/2016 4:17:06 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister

This has been on my mind and chest for a long time and basically I want to get your views on this topic.

Everyone says we need to save/rescue the mainstream middle class from oblivion and basically do what we can to bring jobs.

To be honest, I'm all for letting the mainstream middle class sink or swim. I don't like how the mainstream whine about people on welfare being dependent on the government, but want the government to create laws and policies to protect their interests.

They want student loans forgiven, but keep taking out massive loans for prestigious schools that won't really do much for them after graduation. It's not like graduating from Harvard will end up with them being on the Social Register or going to society balls. Getting worthless degrees.

No one FORCED them to take out huge loans and basically get houses and cars they couldn't afford otherwise. Maxing out the credit cards for designer gear; Fendi and Versace aren't utility companies.

Would it really be such a bad thing if things go belly up and people are forced to basically forgo their unsustainable lifestyle and live according to the reality of their means.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: business; debt; economy; middleclass; zotbait
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1 posted on 08/02/2016 4:17:06 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

I vote for the survival of the mainstream middle class and vote against the mainstream media.


2 posted on 08/02/2016 4:19:21 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Everyone should be given free tuition at Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University. What they do with it is up to them.


3 posted on 08/02/2016 4:21:42 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: immadashell

My higher education in the Infantry at Ft Benning was free...


4 posted on 08/02/2016 4:23:19 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Personally, I think what should be sunk is your FR account.


5 posted on 08/02/2016 4:24:19 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: CorporateStepsister

So you think the middle class should give up and let socialism/communism take over then?


6 posted on 08/02/2016 4:26:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The American people were minding their own business, living on farms, feeding themselves and being good God fearing Christians. Then the federal government came by to help them.

Everything you complain about was forced on the American people by the elites.

Let’s return to state control and reduce the federal government to what the Constitution intended.

Then you won’t have to do anything about the middle class.


7 posted on 08/02/2016 4:28:03 PM PDT by donna (No one should be allowed to become a citizen or even a resident if they support Sharia Law.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

How about leave them alone and they’ll figure it out for themselves like we’ve done since the beginning. What did RR say about the government?


8 posted on 08/02/2016 4:28:18 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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To: CorporateStepsister

I think the The People should tell the elites to F.O. Regardless of whatever classe we mat reside in at this particular point in time.


9 posted on 08/02/2016 4:28:48 PM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: scottinoc

*APPLAUSE*

Did you see Dave’s rant last week? Perfection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeIMNDvYFaM


10 posted on 08/02/2016 4:30:18 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Thanks for posting CorporateStepsister.

Without looking it up, do you know why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I?


11 posted on 08/02/2016 4:30:18 PM PDT by Amendment10
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People are flat-out DUMB when it comes to finances and living BELOW their means is so absolutely FOREIGN to people since our High Skrewls are nothing but Indoctrination Centers these days.

Dave Ramsey says to throw YOURSELF a ‘convention’ as NO politician of any stripe is ever going to give you sh#t:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeIMNDvYFaM

I heartily agree!


12 posted on 08/02/2016 4:32:27 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Tell that (no debt, balanced budget) to the Fed gov’t. Let them set the example.


13 posted on 08/02/2016 4:32:47 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Makers should be encouraged. Takers should be expunged.


14 posted on 08/02/2016 4:33:18 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: donna

Well said, Donna!


15 posted on 08/02/2016 4:33:19 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The issue is not as simple as you suggest.

Yes, people who sign on the dotted line for a house, education or credit card should have to pay it back. Period. It is a matter of honor and a matter of civil society. I have borrowed, and remember that paper which said “here is what you are borrowing, here is the interest you will pay on it and here’s the two combined.” I read that, signed, and paid it back.

But there is another factor hampering the middle class. Taxes, be it income, property or the plethora of taxes embedded into so many facets of life. They are being hiked at every chance and more to fund the growth of the state and federal government (in order to support a new class of elites: government workers) and a growing class of people who are considered not to be part of the middle class, but often live better than them because they do not work and get checks in the mail (the entitlement class). I’m not talking social security recipients; I’m talking gibsmedats of every shape and color.

It is not all the fault of the middle class going out and buying Gucci shoes and college degrees in Lesbian Basket Weaving. There are outside forces intent on destroying it.


16 posted on 08/02/2016 4:38:13 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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Is this your first vanity? Have you complained about the Congress sticking we the tax payers, the cost of all their big packed donors contributions for reelection? Or how about stripping US clean bare to fund education and housing and food and medical care to lying Ryan and Obama’s invasion of illegals? Or perhaps your corporate world benefits off tax dollars subsidies? The middle class are the producers and majority of taxpayers... Who do you think buys your junk?
17 posted on 08/02/2016 4:38:54 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CorporateStepsister

The whole premise of your statement is flawed. You are conflating several separate issues. Saving the middle class in the sense of encouraging/returning “jobs” to rural & semi-rural America has nothing to with uneconomical “mortgages” & out of control “college loans”. Those are completely separate unrelated issues.
If you have a point it’s well hidden.


18 posted on 08/02/2016 4:39:50 PM PDT by Reily
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I don’t know what world this poster lives in that thinks people today are using their credit cards to buy Gucci or Pucci or whatever the hell designer she mentions. In fact, this country is overrun with Dollar Tree stores where people are buying cheap soap and milk and the occasional goody for the kiddie. Blame the Federal Government and Obama for this horrible economy. My husband got laid off in the crash and we used our credit cards to buy food, not designer goods.


19 posted on 08/02/2016 4:41:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Just where do you stand on the corporate stepladder? And define mainstream middle class with some annual incomes so we can judge YOU a little better.


20 posted on 08/02/2016 4:42:19 PM PDT by disndat
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