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Why has FR turned on Cruz?
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Posted on 05/02/2016 2:30:43 PM PDT by bassmaner

I'll keep this vanity short ... Mods: please feel free to pull it if it's inappropriate.

Why have so many here on FR turned on Ted Cruz in such a vicious way?

We cheered when we first heard about Ted taking on the establishment in TX to win the primary in the race to fill Kay Bailey Hutchison's vacated Senate seat, in a bad year for the GOP

We cheered again when Ted exhorted us to 'Stand With Rand' when he offered public support for Rand Paul's filibuster over the NDAA

Once more, we cheered when he stood on the Senate floor and urged his colleagues to join him and use the power of the purse to kill Obamacare

We nodded our collective heads in approval when he openly and correctly called Mitch McConnell a liar

And we jumped for joy when he became the first GOPer to announce a presidential run!

So ... what happened? Yes, Trump announced. But at first, not too many people took him seriously. For the longest time, there seemed to be an unspoken pact between Trump and Cruz, where they occasionally said nice things about each other while bashing the other candidates.

But ever since the voting began and Trump turned on Cruz (starting with the Ben Carson imbroglio in Iowa), a large contingent of FReepers did the same and seem to be echoing RINOs like John Boehner and Peter King in their absolute abhorrence of Cruz.

Yes, we need to choose sides, but for God's sake, can't we send that kind of vitriol in the direction that it belongs, ie. Hildabeast and the 'Rat Party, and knock off the circular firing squad?


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To: bassmaner

Because he’s a giant dork


301 posted on 05/02/2016 5:13:43 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Fantasywriter

You kidding? This is the first article I could find that was posted here about Boehner’s statement. Check out the comments, you will see.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3425444/posts


302 posted on 05/02/2016 5:18:37 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: VanDeKoik

Sums it up rather nicely.


303 posted on 05/02/2016 5:18:45 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (That giant flushing sound is the New Whirled Order, going down the tubes.)
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To: JimSEA
It will be impossible for either side to forget.

Well, then, forgiving will have to suffice...

Vote Trump

304 posted on 05/02/2016 5:23:25 PM PDT by sargon (Vote Trump!)
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To: bassmaner
We cheered again when Ted exhorted us to 'Stand With Rand' when he offered public support for Rand Paul's filibuster over the NDAA

Not anymore. He has since flip-flopped on the issue. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/265889-cruz-flip-flops-on-snowden

He did it solely to avoid being attacked by Rubio on the issue. It was a craven act.

305 posted on 05/02/2016 5:23:43 PM PDT by freedomcrusader (Proudly wearing the politically incorrect label "crusader" since 1/29/2001)
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To: bassmaner

My reasons. Switched to Trump as soon as he got it. Unfortunately Cruz has been a big letdown how he’s conducted his campaign. Twists Trump’s positions, surrounds himself with the wrong people.

1. Trump is better at manhandling the media
2. Outsider, world class businessman, winner; will lead to more jobs than Cruz.
3. America First
4. The Wall. Stands for law and order.
5. Great family, reflects well on the character of DJT
6. In it for the right reasons, Make America Great Again. Cruz too ambitious.
7. No worse than Grade B on any of my top issues.
8. Can flip states Romney lost red.


306 posted on 05/02/2016 5:23:43 PM PDT by ironman
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To: cornfedcowboy
The garbage like calling Cruz “a total scumbag” is ruining Free Republic. I am guessing many (not all) of the Trump supporters posting stupid things don’t even support FR. Just a guess.

It's not "garbage". It's the truth, and isn't ruining a thing, except for maybe your tender feelings.

BTW, Ted is a total scumbag, and he's done a lot to earn that distinction.

307 posted on 05/02/2016 5:28:37 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: bassmaner

Apparently, seemingly overnight and because of the syncophetic love for Trump, the evil ones are now, Cruz, Limbaugh, Beck, Levin and Scott Walker.

Trump is the only true Conservative, everyone who has been fighting in the trenches against the progress of liberalism is a fraud. Only Trump is the true one, only Trump is the truthful one. And only Trump can save the Republican.

Freepers are going to be seriously disappointed if he’s elected. Stand by for Clinton light....


308 posted on 05/02/2016 5:28:44 PM PDT by planesman
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To: ironman

9. TPP
10. Lyin’ Ted (i.e., his whole personality)
11. The people around him
12. The booger


309 posted on 05/02/2016 5:29:18 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: bassmaner
Why have so many here on FR turned on Ted Cruz in such a vicious way?

24x7 posting by certain Freepers saying anything and everything bad about Cruz (Cruz is: the AntiChrist, a liar, not actually conservative, in some cult, a Soros stooge, etc, etc) and lack of understanding regarding the way that delegate wrangling actually work are the main factors, IMHO. How it is Cruz's fault that the took advantage of existing rules makes him a cheater is beyond me. How Trump can fail to read the rules and take advantage of them and be a victim is also beyond me. But yes, I'll put the clothespin on my nose (again) and vote for Trump when he wins the nomination (which, BTW, he has not done yet).
310 posted on 05/02/2016 5:31:35 PM PDT by PrairieDawg (#NeverHillary or Warren or Biden or ...)
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To: biff

“Trump and the rest used tried and true socialistic techniques to destroy Cruz.”

Untrue and unnecessary. Mostly we stood back while “Ted” (not his real name) Cruz determinedly stalled and crashed his campaign at the end of the runway. No real effort needed.


311 posted on 05/02/2016 5:33:30 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (That giant flushing sound is the New Whirled Order, going down the tubes.)
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To: chiller
So Cruz did once, what Trump made/makes a habit of doing ?

Nonsense. Trump's missteps have been juvenile, or comical.

Ted Cruz's actions have been profoundly disturbing.

He played the race card before the Chicago fiasco, for God's sake!

Ted Cruz has exhibited a pronounced tendency to say or do anything to try to win. He's happy to take Machiavellian shortcuts, and has attempted them several times along the way.

In short, Ted Cruz, the GOPe (but I repeat myself) and their ilk in the Media and Left have engaged in a systematic campaign of demonization of Donald Trump.

This character assassination campaign, perpetrated by the unholy alliance noted above, has been blatantly slanted, unprincipled, and unprecedented.

To see a corrupt, entrenched power structure so threatened by one person; so dedicated to thwarting the will of the People; so terrified of having their apple cart upturned and losing their spot at the feeding trough; so hysterical that they want to destroy a decent, red-blooded American success story who loves his country and will work tirelessly and energetically to help make America great again; makes me sad.

It's disappointing to see irrational hatred towards Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, but, to quote George W. Bush regarding Ted Cruz: "I just don't like the guy!". That's currently where I am with Ted Cruz after what I've seen from him.

Vote Trump

312 posted on 05/02/2016 5:39:25 PM PDT by sargon (Vote Trump!)
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To: bassmaner

As a Senator Cruz accomplished nothing !


313 posted on 05/02/2016 5:39:29 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (GOPe/MSM - "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you)
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To: VanDeKoik

Alinsky wrote of the techniques, read his book. Stalin took it to the extremes but used a gun. Goebbels used the same methods successfully.

You need to get away from FR and expand you sphere of knowledge. They still publish those wonderful items called books.


314 posted on 05/02/2016 5:43:08 PM PDT by biff
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To: bassmaner

I agree completely.

Cruz does a lot of stuff I don’t like, but we need to keep a second choice available just in case something happens to Trump. For all his faults, Cruz is the only decent second choice there is.

I’ve had to look past Trump’s faults. I can look past Cruz’s.


315 posted on 05/02/2016 5:45:37 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: DaxtonBrown

You get a bit carried away. Cruz has been caught lying by every Fox News type.


316 posted on 05/02/2016 5:48:12 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Lyin Ted lies more then Hillary)
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To: kralcmot

“...beyond dead....compost”

ComposTed.

Heh...


317 posted on 05/02/2016 5:49:08 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: bassmaner

There is no “either one of our guys” anymore. There is Trump, and then there are the guys who have lost and are doing their best to make sure the last Globalist standing (i.e. Shillary) wins.

That’s pretty much where we stand now.


318 posted on 05/02/2016 5:49:12 PM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: bassmaner
Clearly you cannot see that Cruz is just another globalist hack wrapped in conservative clothing. The battle isn't left and right, conservative vs liberal. It is the USA vs the world.

The appeal of Trump is the "wall" and a roll back of offshoring and putting America first in trade and other areas. Cruz cannot do that.

319 posted on 05/02/2016 5:49:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Says I. Cruz has been caught lying by Greta, Wallace, Hannity, etc.


320 posted on 05/02/2016 5:50:18 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Lyin Ted lies more then Hillary)
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