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1 posted on 04/30/2016 2:23:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The entitlement is to a “fair AND SPEEDY” trial. Shooting on sight gets him at least 50% of his rights. That seems to be more than they want to give us, don’t you think?


2 posted on 04/30/2016 2:29:22 AM PDT by Rapscallion (You are correct. It IS a conspiracy, not a bad dream.)
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Self defense is racist


3 posted on 04/30/2016 2:29:42 AM PDT by 4rcane
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The person being killed is denied their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Those 3 rights trump the 1 right to a trail.


6 posted on 04/30/2016 2:50:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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The attacker has voluntarily nullified his rights the moment the attack begins by virtue of the attempt to infringe upon and/or deny the attacked person’s rights.

Your right to swing your fist ends just before you make contact with any part of my body.


7 posted on 04/30/2016 2:51:04 AM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To even engage in a discussion with Justin Curmi about this would be a form of perverted mental masturbation of the absurd. His contention is insane and any consideration of it legitimizes him even more.


8 posted on 04/30/2016 3:00:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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If you do indeed shoot someone, make sure it is a legal self defence and shoot to kill.
Avoid being sued for damages or injuries.


9 posted on 04/30/2016 3:09:36 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (500 years ago we had Shakesphere, obammys people live in mud huts still. Go figure)
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So what this guy is essentially saying is that his right to a trial is more important than my life, because if he is willing to break into my home, he may be willing to take my life.


10 posted on 04/30/2016 3:11:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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One can only hope that brian anderson or a family member is violently accosted and we will see a change in him and if we dont he is mentally ill


11 posted on 04/30/2016 3:16:40 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Rights are balanced against each other not equal.

E.g., you can’t deny my right to shoot somebody because it denies my free speech - I am expressing my displeasure with them.

In that case, the victim’s life is more important than your speech. If you don’t believe that, shoot somebody you don’t like and see what happens.


13 posted on 04/30/2016 3:25:05 AM PDT by fruser1
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What I missed in those debates is that the Bill of Rights is what the government cannot take from you. It dies not govern the conduct of individuals. If you’re in my home, I have every right to not respect your rights. If I’m in your home, you can do the same to me.


14 posted on 04/30/2016 3:30:48 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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The main problem with the notion of self-defense is it imposes on justice, for everyone has the right for a fair trial.

The Left never defines the term, 'justice.' If they did, their irrational, bumper-sticker fallacies would disintegrate. The ambiguity surrounding their use of 'justice' lets them get away with an assortment of dangerous fuzzy ideas, such as social justice, environmental justice, racial justice, . . .

OTOH, we conservatives should regard justice as compliance with Natural Law, the Law of Reason, meaning "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Armed with truth, we can slap Leftists down every time.

15 posted on 04/30/2016 3:35:49 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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This is in line with the liberals's view of crime. This is a discussion I have had with an old friend who is a total and hopeless liberal and who is presently a professor at UF. Herewith an extremely abbreviated version of his reasoning:

Philosophically a criminal is not responsible for his actions because society caused him to be a criminal and his acts are irrational i.e. he can't help it. One who defends himself from the criminal is a rational actor because it is rational to not want to be robbed, hurt, or killed. Thus self defense is a considered rational act and is deliberate inflicted harm to the assailant making it the greater or the only crime.

18 posted on 04/30/2016 3:44:40 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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This has to be satire...right?


19 posted on 04/30/2016 3:45:45 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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Dirty Harry’s policy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRA5FBtbHHM


22 posted on 04/30/2016 3:54:48 AM PDT by eastforker (The only time you can be satisfied is when your all Trump.)
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More progressive idiocy. After you’re dead you can shoot back.


23 posted on 04/30/2016 3:56:28 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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More progressive idiocy. After you’re dead you can shoot back.


24 posted on 04/30/2016 3:56:29 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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Yep - far more fair to allow yourself to be killed so the bad guy gets treated fairly...wonder how they would put it into practice under real world conditions....


28 posted on 04/30/2016 4:35:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I leave judgement to God. Arranging the meeting only expedites justice


32 posted on 04/30/2016 5:02:08 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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But denies you the right to Life, Liberty, an Pursuit of Happiness Dummo!


33 posted on 04/30/2016 5:08:23 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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Abortion is illegal because it denies the baby the right to a fair trial.


35 posted on 04/30/2016 5:56:54 AM PDT by goodwithagun (March 3, 2016: The date FReepers justified the "goodness" of Planned Parenthood.)
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