Posted on 04/30/2016 2:23:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I have no idea what to make of this. The Huffington Post is arguing that Americans have no legal right to shoot a violent attacker because it violates the criminals right to a fair trial. I feel confident in saying this is by far the dumbest attempt to subvert our gun ownership rights ever and thats saying a lot considering how insanely stupid gun grabbers are.
Justin Curmi is a dyslexic guy with a degree in philosophy. According to his bio he is, A blogger that seeks to engage people in thought and conversation through presenting new views to matters, new or old. Writing for The HuffPo, he presented one hell of a view concerning our right to not be murdered by a maniac killer.
Oddly enough, this thing starts out very un-HuffPosty by acknowledging that the 2nd Amendment does protect private gun ownership:
The Second Amendment is highly contested. There is no doubt that people do have the right to carry and have a stockpile of guns (the right of the people to keep and bear arms) and a state has the right to organize a well-regulated Militia. But, the main issue is on the right to self-defend with a firearm.
Its still worded sarcastically, but that does seem like the author reluctantly agrees with the peoples right to keep and bear arms. Now here is where things become unhinged:
The main problem with the notion of self-defense is it imposes on justice, for everyone has the right for a fair trial. Therefore, using a firearm to defend oneself is not legal because if the attacker is killed, he or she is devoid of his or her rights.
There are an awful lot of flaws with this argument, the first being that a violent attacker hasnt been arrested or charged yet when they are trying to commit a terrible act. They arent due their day in court until they are formally charged. In addition, a person committing an unlawful act forfeits certain legal protections.
Second, the Bill of Rights only limits the power of the federal government, not the people. The Constitution doesnt lay out all of our rights, just the ones the feds cant mess with. We have other rights besides what is in the document, and one of those is the basic human right to live.
Third, nothing in the Constitution forbids the people from defending themselves against a deadly attack. There is no clause in the 6th Amendment that says a person cannot defend himself or herself with deadly force because it interferes with a criminals right to a fair trial. There have also been no Supreme Court rulings in this area.
And if you thought that was idiotic, check out the other reasons why the author thinks we cant use guns in self-defense:
Therefore, if we ponder and meditate on the recent events in news about guns, it would be obvious that the current state is incorrect. A gun for civilians is a weapon for a revolution and not for ordinary use. The belief that a gun is a useful tool to protect one is counterintuitive because guns get into the hands of people who use them for horrible reasons.
Thats almost like a cohesive thought, I guess. Basically this guy is saying that guns are only for overthrowing the government so they cannot be used for defense or hunting or target shooting. Plus, since criminals use guns for crime, law-abiding people cant use them to stop crime.
The only thing I can conclude here is that the Huffington Post paid Justin Curmi with psychedelic mushrooms and gave him a big advance for his writing. This isnt even normal gun-grabber ignorance and misrepresentation of fact. This is balls-out/tin-foil hat insanity. The only thing thought provoking about his argument is; why isnt he in an institution where he can get the help he needs?
More progressive idiocy. After you’re dead you can shoot back.
More progressive idiocy. After you’re dead you can shoot back.
You go first Justin.
Justin Curmi, Justin Trudeau, Justin Thyme.....
Is everyone named Justin just a clueless dork or what?
“Is everyone named Justin just a clueless dork or what?”
Not necessarily but we probably should assume so Justin Case.
Yep - far more fair to allow yourself to be killed so the bad guy gets treated fairly...wonder how they would put it into practice under real world conditions....
LOL, that’s what happens when you post half asleep!!! That and my typing dyslexia.
Clearly, because of disparate outcomes. Call the DOJ.
Why does it have to be a male? Yes I typed trail instead of trial. Was tired. Had been up all day working and posting. Please forgive my mistype.
I leave judgement to God. Arranging the meeting only expedites justice
But denies you the right to Life, Liberty, an Pursuit of Happiness Dummo!
My family policy is to keep shooting until they quilt flopping.
Abortion is illegal because it denies the baby the right to a fair trial.
There are some very intelligent responses to this BS that a citizen has a responsibility to make sure that there is due process for an aggressive criminal in a situation of defending one's life.
I live in a rural area, with only a few sheriff’s deputies to patrol hundreds of square miles. Law enforcement officers only clean up the aftereffects of any crime. Not complaining, it’s just the way it is. That being said, any criminal thug stupid enough to break into my home is only entitled to the business end of my gun and its appropriate ammunition. Thank you, Texas Castle Doctrine.
Even before this was made state law, a former county sheriff would let the rural residents know his office could not get to anyone in time to stop a crime. He said shoot first and drag the body inside. He may have been law enforcement, but he was a realist first and foremost.
We are in danger. It’s coming. Citizens need to prepare for the moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tNQ9upvMTk&feature=youtu.be
Anti-Trump illegal aliens terrorize young American woman in her car: they hit, kick, spit, & vandalize her car. She sits petrified wondering whether her windows will hold or she will be ripped to pieces by the mob. 4/28/16
Americas nightmare 2016
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Absolutely disgraceful.
If a violent criminal attacks me I do not want him to have a fair trial. I want him dead via 100 grains of lead moving at 1475 feet per second.
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