Posted on 03/17/2016 6:45:45 PM PDT by ak267
The Trump-bashers are starting up a list of conservative supporters of Donald Trump — so that they can blackball these Trump supporters.
The list was initiated by Cruz supporter Amanda Carpenter who is usually kind and intelligent but now suffers from a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
The Norwalk Hour newspaper - Wed, June 14, 1967
Reagan Gets Bill Easing Abortion In California
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP)
—The California Assembly has
passed and sent to Gov. Ronald
Reagan, a bill easing the state’s
abortion law — unchanged in 95
years.
Reagan said the bill was “by
no means perfect” and would
have to be watched closely to
prevent California from becoming
an abortion haven. But he
said he would sign it despite his
doubts about some possible
“loopholes”.
“I am fully sympathetic with
attempts to liberalize the outdated
abortion law now on the
law books of California.” the
freshman Republican governor
said.
The bipartisan vote Tuesday
and Reagan’s pledge climaxed
the most controversial and emotional
debate so far in the 1967
legislative session.
Colorado and North Carolina
have passed similar laws earlier
this year and both now are
in effect. Colorado’s previous
statute was nearly a century old
and North Carolina’s dated back
to 1868.
The bill, sponsored by Sen.
Anthony C. Beilenson, a Beverly
Hills Democrat, would permit
abortions before the 20th week
of pregnancy if:
—The prospective mothers’s
physical or mental health is in
danger.
—The pregnancy resulted
from incest or forcible rape, or
statutory rape in the case of a
girl 14 years old or younger.
The old law permits abortions
only if the life of the prospective
mother is endangered.
Article from the Google Newspaper Archive
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=yAlJAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dAUNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5620%2C3433380
How could anyone be more RINO liberal than:
-giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens in America - 1986
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=Z7M0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=YCEGAAAAIBAJ&pg=7219%2C665572
-endorsing the Brady bill against the 2nd amendment - 1991
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=UpwzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0TIHAAAAIBAJ&pg=3945%2C5172761
-coming out in support of NAFTA - 1992
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=q0dQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=11UDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3988%2C3599740
Yet Ronald Reagan did all of those things.
Ronald Reagan was no Ronald Reagan after he performed all of those liberal actions
Great effort FRiend! God bless you.
Some of the high profile Cruz supporters like Beck, Levin and this Amanda Carpenter are despicable people. She should lose here CNN gig over this. And they claim us Trump supporters are Nazis. I wonder if Ted will denounce her for her brown shirt tactics.
Amen, Jesus is the only true and good and abundant wealth distributer in the Universe. He made us, sustains us, saves us and even serves us.
Luke 22
25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
WENDLE I've watched the video and it's mildly disturbing and typical of a lot of American pentecostal fare. Maybe God is sparing us a dominionist (guilt by association) while cursing us with an obviously and openly self-worshiping authoritarian statist.
I’ve watched that one video of Ted Cruz’s dad’s preaching, several times. It seemed kinda pentecostal, with lots of references to the Old Testament. But I sincerely didn’t hear anything blatantly heretical or unorthodox.
Lots of people are maligning that video, without having actually watched it. Some people, for example, say that his dad called Ted “The Anointed One” in that video. But that phrase isn’t in there, at all.
Have Ted Cruz or his father said they hold to so-called “Seven Mountain Dominionism”? Or is that just the allegation?
Here’s the thing: I’m approaching this concept of “spheres” or “mountains” as one who has gone through Focus on the Family’s “The Truth Project” curriculum. The curriculum identifies various social spheres (church, state, family, etc.) in which followers of Christ might be engaged.
You can read more about it here ( http://www.focusonthefamily.com/media/the-truth-project ) or here ( http://www.thetruthproject.org/ ). I found a leaders guide here ( http://www.thetruthproject.org/~/media/files/pdf/ttp-leader-guide-final.ashx ).
Uh oh. Are you advocating throwing out the entire Old Testament because certain dietary laws are no longer applicable to followers of Christ?
I don’t know if you are missing something...I had not planned to get into it, but yeah, I think she is an operative....The woman is starting a political hate list...That is a problem for me. The GOPe has evolved into something very ugly.
Many of her little tweets (she has a large twitter following from the campaign) probably don’t make major media, but they are indicative of her mindset. As I said, this is scary to me. What about the Constitution and Liberty? Guess she did not bring those concepts along when she changed positions. Is this the Cruz campaign mindset?
Perhaps the word plant is too strong (or not), but clearly she is an operative. Did she purposely leave to join CNN? Uh yeah I actually do think so based on what she just said. She worked for Cruz for 6+ years on his campaign and his Senate staff. She said her work is done after smooth presidental campaign launch (but she had been working there for 6 years....) Regardless, advocating a hate list is beyond the pale...
Ironic that some people hint of Trump not paying attention to the Constitution and of being a potential hitler, yet what she is advocating is far more hitlereqsque than anything Trump ever said or did.
What frustrates me is when media networks don’t fully disclose the candidate current and former alliances and allegiances of their staff. I doubt the average CNN watcher in the airport knows that Amanda Carpenter is a Cruz loyalist...but they should be made aware of that when she is speaking or tweeting for CNN. This problem is not limited to CNN, but again Carpenter’s outrageous comments highlight the problem.
Tagline: "start thinking about what you want to do to them"
"She'd look GOOD in Trump's dungeon"
These threats are not made against our enemies. They are made at people with whom they have a difference of opinion. And it's getting scary.
I am missing any evidence that someone who left a job and went to work for an outfit which has been traditionally hostile to Conservatives is connected somehow to the former employer still and double dipping.
Sorry, but no dice. Sounds like tinfoil hat time to me.
Sanders, Clinton, Rubio, Carson, Kasich, and Jebbie supporters (and others) might feel motivation to build a 'hate list', (Oh, boo hoo).
Or maybe it is just her personal project.
I figure if Trump wins, maybe things will work out, and if they don't, I tried.
The 'I told you so's are going to be a b*tch either way. So it goes.
What about the Constitution and Liberty? Guess she did not bring those concepts along when she changed positions. Is this the Cruz campaign mindset?
Well, if she didn't, that might be the reason for her changing jobs. She is acting like a Liberal, not a Constitutionalist or a Conservative.
Ironic that some people hint of Trump not paying attention to the Constitution and of being a potential hitler, yet what she is advocating is far more hitlereqsque than anything Trump ever said or did.
Well, it is on her. She doesn't even work for Cruz, and you are trying to blame him and his campaign for the actions of a CNN employee. CNN didn't do him any favors in Iowa, either. So this might well be a setup to make Cruz look bad.
If people can say that he blamed Communists and Racists rioting in the streets on Trump, the word 'trumped up' takes on new meanings, and this trumped up nonsense will probably be used to hurt him. What's next, someone who took the same cab he rode in a few days before does something and Cruz is accused of a conspiracy with them?
Wow. Listen to yourselves. That's what I find freaky.
I doubt the average CNN watcher in the airport knows that Amanda Carpenter is a Cruz loyalist...but they should be made aware of that when she is speaking or tweeting for CNN.
Well, how about posting the CV for all current and former Trump employees? Or the connections with all media people, past and present, whether they may have worked at the same firm a decade or two ago, or were college roomies or frat brothers? How far do you want to go with this, because what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Or, better yet, how about letting the actions of a person be the responsibility of the person who performed those acts? If there is an employer involved and they bear part of that responsibility, then let them, but that employer is CNN.
And, please, I have listened repeatedly to Ted Cruz's comments about the Chicago rioting, and he didn't say Trump's name, much less blame him for the actions of communist rioters in the street. It was Trump supporters who decided a shoe fit.
I don’t believe it’s Cruz’s fault she’s an idiot. But I do think he should remind her not to stink him up with her lunatic behavior.
It wouldn’t surprise me.
So Cruz was not talking about Trump because Cruz didn’t say “Trump’s name...well either you did not watch the news that night or you totally disregarded the question directed to him that he was answering. He was asked about Trump’s campaign....What a lamea$$ comment to defend Cruz comments. Sheesh! Cruz was at a lavish fundraiser in the suburbs of Chicago...and was asked about Trump’s rally in Chicago by local TV news...I suggest you refrain from commenting on topics you really don’t know about I live in CHicagoland, I was there....
“I think a campaign bears responsibility for creating an environment, when the candidate urges supporters to engage in physical violence–to punch people in the face. The predictable consequence of that is that it escalates and today is unlikely to be the last such instance,” Cruz said in a sorrowful tone...Who else was he talking about?!?!
IF you want to justify Carpenter’s hate list, fine. Oh it was her own idea, but it is based on her loyalty to Cruz...not being a CNN employee...I think it it another attempt to squelch free speech—from the right not the left, so I don’t know what half of your comments have to do with it...CNN didn’t force her to tweet that...”Sanders Rubio Jebbie supporters....boo hoo” had nothing to do with Carpenter’s “project” and you justify it...fine. Set up to make Cruz look bad? Aren’t you stretching...
Hate lists...Such a conservative idea...just like trampling free speech which Cruz defended—just like a woman wearing a short skirt deserves what she gets. Carpenter left the Cruz campaign on good terms...glowing comments about it...didn’t leave because she opposed him or his campaign tactics and positions. She is not a liberal.
Tin foil? Don’t put silly words in my mouth FRend...I never said she was on Cruz payroll. People have to be paid to be an operative. But she left the campaign at a convenient time...and if she is not disclosed as a someone who has had or has very close ties to Cruz and is a huge supporter (which she obviously is thru her Tweet to do a Trump hate list), it is doing the public a disservice.
I think all former employment and affiliation should be disclosed by all networks...for all candidates...Cruz, Kasich and TRump...put it under their name with their other credentials which are often touted on the the tv as person is talking...Who is Carl Rove? How about Frank Luntz being Rubio’s personal opinion maker for years?...For years Stephanopolis has paraded as a journalist...Oh he is not double dipping, but he is a Clinton operative...always framing discussions to reflect favorably on democrats in general, Hillary in particular. Heck, he was a Presidentialdebate moderator???? How impartial! LOL Frankly, I see no problem disclosing...I am shocked that you would.
Listen to yourselves”...Yup, I am for full disclosure of past and present political allegiances of media staff—You betcha because working for a political campaign really transcends a personal opinion and certainly contributes to media bias and presenting certain facts omitting others, etc....We have screamed about this on the side of the left...it is just new to us on the right.
Getting back to Carpenter..and one sentence comment—for which I have spent better part of half hour defending...
She is supporting fascism....” way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government.” As far as the Cruz campaign mindset...I really don’t know what they are thinking, but he he did not defend Trump’s right to free speech or my right to assemble.
My take away is Carpenter is motivated to punish any threat to Cruz...Why, because she is a huge supporter, was very involved and I think it would be naive to assume she is not in contact with the Cruz campaign staff. That is not the real world. But I will apologize for using the word Plant...Sheesh, but she is a former Cruz employee—senior communications and speech writer—media savvy who is advocating a hate list...I have a huge problem with this. Feel like I am living in old Soviet Union or China.
Back to the rally, Cruz and the other candidates did not care about my safety or my right to assemble. You were not there. I was—just wanted to go hear Trump in person. I ended up being in multiple videos being ambushed by a mob of Chicago rent-a-thugs. It was very frightening—very traumatic as no police were in my vicinity...
These Chicago Moveon.org BLM thugs were not discouraged by media or other candidates...and they will get worse whether Cruz or Trump wins because of this!! Today, Trump’s son was threatened. Mail with white powder sent...Some here actually said it was a Trump stunt...Where is the outrage? We are in serious trouble here, and people better get a clue that allowing for stuff like this from both the left and the right either by tacitly approving or saying nothing is going to be bad for everyone.
BTW, I posted about my ambush by thugs a lot last weekend, and not one Cruz supporter on this forum said “wow, that is awful” or “Glad you are ok”...not one. Because I am not a Cruz supporter, my safety and rights were not important.
I am very sensitive to what happened and what was said...I suspect you would if you were there. Not defending free speech and right to assemble and starting hate lists is not very Constituional IMHO.
Believe what you will, but Reagan was leagues above Trump in his conservatism.
He NEVER would have supported partial birth abortion.
He NEVER would have supported taking private property for private use via eminent domain.
He NEVER would have supported universal healthcare.
His positions would skew liberal in order to get past the 4 decade old democratic congress.
And he stated the abortion bill was the greatest mistake he ever made as governor of California.
Trump has no issue with his past positions. Seeks no forgiveness for supporting sucking brains out of babies. Still supports forcing universal healthcare down our throats...
The two are no where close to one another. As much as you want to redefine Reagan to fit your liberal candidate, history is history and Trump is no Reagan.
It is my civic duty, as an American to participate. Not a religious one. God calls us to put HIS kingdom first, not the kingdom of men (politics). You are conflating the two.
I care because I have a 6 month old daughter, because I am proud to be an American, not because I believe it will (or can) bring about the return of Christ (as Cruz believer) nor because I see it as a religious duty. It is not.
Well, that’s where you and I disagree.
I believe that Christ calls us to engage every sphere of society, from family to church to state. There is no cultural sphere from which we are to be disengaged. We can serve His kingdom first through serving in “the kingdom of men.” Salt and light and all that ...
It is good for Christians to aspire to serve in elected office.
You wrote “... bring about the return of Christ (as Cruz believer) ...” Not sure what you’re saying there. Surely you’re not accusing Ted Cruz of believing that if he becomes president, Christ’s return is thereby imminent?
Not at all, there is benefit to the OT, however you are using or rather misusing one verse on dominion and applying it to social mores. That is not the context or the meaning.
If you want to claim the WHOLE OT is applicable (and I gave you more than just dietary laws) based on the fact Jesus observed them or quoted them then you have to follow the entire OT. You are picking and choosing. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy.
That is an unbiblical view. Jesus separated faith and politics and chastised those who thought he was a political messiah (try reading the NT). Show me where Christ called us to engage in politics? Dominionism teaches we must conquer society through political power in order for the return of Christ. That is directly contrary to the Bible. Salt and light was not used in the context of political power. That is man’s kingdom, not God’s. Christians need to fix the kingdom of God first “seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you”. Seek God first, fix the churches (lack of charity, lack of theology, acceptance of heresy like dominionism). Then perhaps, if it is God’s will, the world will fall into place. But politics has not a single thing do with it. I am saying that Cruz (and all dominionists) believe and teach that we must have control of the social areas before Christ will return.
“One of Satan’s grandest deceptions is that we can rest our hope for cultural morality and godly living in politicians and governmental officials. A nation’s hope for change is not to be found in any country’s ruling class. The church has made a mistake if it thinks that it is the job of politicians to defend, to advance, and to guard biblical truths and Christian values....Political entities are not the savior of the world. The salvation for all mankind has been manifested in Jesus Christ. God knew that our world needed saving long before any national government was ever founded. He demonstrated to the world that redemption could not be accomplished through the power of man, his economic strength, his military might, or his politics. Peace of mind, contentment, hope and joy—and the salvation of mankind—is accomplished only through His work of faith, love, and grace.”
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-politics.html
It isn’t a matter of if we can disagree, you are making politics your god.
//It is good for Christians to aspire to serve in elected office.//
Got a bible verse for that?
Heh, Myth Romney just endorsed the Canadian.
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