Posted on 02/29/2016 4:26:12 AM PST by Kaslin
I disagree with those conservatives who say they will never, ever, ever, ever vote for Donald Trump should the GOP embrace his special brand of nonsense and nominate him, but I can't blame them. Hell, I'm about one more round of foolishness away from joining them.
But not quite yet. Trump is the lesser of the candidates, lesser of the conservatives, but also the lesser of the two ancient socialist evils that the Democrats are eenie meenie miney moeing between. At least Trump pretends to embrace capitalism, of a sort. And at least he doesn't seem to hate America, just those Americans who aren't awed by his magnificence.
He's no conservative, that's clear. Trump merely mouths conservative ideas, though to characterize them as "ideas" gives them credit for a thoughtfulness and ideological rigor entirely absent from his experience. But Trump is canny enough to know his audience, and he knows what sells -God, guns, and the glory of the good old U.S. of A. And I like all those things. Perhaps he will continue to find supporting those things useful in the future, meaning that with Trump, at least there's a chance we'll be able to protect these things. But Der Crusty Commissar and the Bar-exam-flunking, pervert-enabling, pantsuited, liberal fascist harridan are actively against those things and everything else good about America. So Trump is marginally better only because he's marginally less likely to turn us into a less tropical version of Venezuela.
Yippee. Can you feel the burn?
It goes without saying that the establishment burned us good by ignoring, when not actively lying to, the same folks Trump has now enlisted. Sure, Trump has attracted some cretins, racists and nimrods, though I'll put his bad apple creepy hangers-on up against Sanders's Occupier freaks any day in a Battle of the Political Fringies for the Worst People Ever trophy. But most of his followers are just regular Americans who are tired of seeing the country they spent their lives building, feeding, defending, and loving stolen from them by weirdos, losers and gender-fluid mutations.
They are sick of being told what to do, what to think and what to feel - and to shut-up. It's not only by the left but by our own side - how many conversations have you heard where those folks who didn't get fancy degrees and who don't work in a nice, clean office get derided as extras from Deliverance?
Trump is their response. Trump is their champion. Trump is their avenger.
But to understand Trump's appeal is not to excuse him. He's as faithful to conservative principles as Bill is to Hillary, and when President Trump rethinks everything he has said during the campaign after moving into the soon-to-be-fabulous White House, his followers stand a fair chance of finding that they are now the blue dress.
Still, my assessment is that if he is nominated (which I think is no done deal for several reasons, like his pummeling in the recent debate) we are slightly better off with him than with one of the Dems - and his huge margins among women and Hispanics throw shade on the hope-over-experience notion that Trump can't beat Hillary. I think he'll beat her like a drum, and the amusement value of this bizarrely-coiffed charlatan driving the brownshirted liberal church lady nuts would almost be worth the risk to our Republic. But those who assess the danger of a President Trump as too great, well, you'll get no argument from me.
In 2012, I undertook the thankless task of trying to convince rabid libertarians that they were better off voting for Romney than remaining pure and in their basements. I was convinced I was right, and I was, in fact, right. But don't look for me to chide my principled conservative friends like Rick Wilson and Erick Erickson when they sit out Election Day. This is a strategic disagreement, and I can't say their strategy is too far off to be valid. Trump is not a conservative, and that's reason enough to shun him.
Trump has the potential to be a disaster of epic proportions. I'd vote for him as the nominee only because neither of the Democrats has the potential not to be. But if that's not enough for you to support him, well, I won't tell you you're wrong. And besides, if he's nominated, I'll be too busy stockpiling food and fortifying my rural apocalypse compound to try to convince you otherwise.
As long as the wall is built and the trains run on time, right?
oh but the true believers believe it. my mind boggles at the insanity that I see at every turn.
That will turn out as well as Project X did for Mr. Thompson. lol
Atlas Shrugged is now nonfiction.
This whole saga has been laced with insanity.
They’ll simply stay home. Among a large group of consistent conservatives, there is no motivation to vote for Trump.
And it is your God given right to vote whomever you choose. I fear that will give us Hillary if too many people do that but we may be ok. And I certainly can’t tell you for whom to vote! I just hope too many people don’t choose the same path. And I do respect your thoughtful choice and respectful comment.
WHY IS THIS IN CHAT? THIS IS ABOUT THE 2016 ELECTION. THERE IS NO ELECTION TOPIC IN CHAT. THIS NEEDS TO GO TO NEWS/ ACTIVISM
WHAT STUPID TOPIC IS CHEESE, MOOSE AND SISTER FOR A TOPIC THAT IS ABOUT THE 2016 ELECTION?
It’s spoiled brats like these who got us where we are. They don’t think things are so bad now that they have to step off their self-righteous perches so they stick it to the rest of us.
I wish they’d join Whoopi and get the hell on a plane to a more amenable location
It’s spoiled brats like these who got us where we are. They don’t think things are so bad now that they have to step off their self-righteous perches so they stick it to the rest of us.
I wish they’d join Whoopi and get the hell on a plane to a more amenable location
LOl! You have seen the poll numbers right?? He's going to win, get used to it. Then you can vote for Hillary in the general.
There are several rats who promised to move to Canada if Trump is elected. Al Sharpton is one of them.
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So you will get another Obama or worse!
If you haven’t figured out life yet - you don’t get everything your way.
Not voting is the coward’s way out.””””””
Blindly following a snake oil salesman is just not my thing but good luck with it.
More Anti Trump BS. Sessions was smart to not endorse Cruz.
You have a choice.
Either vote or don’t vote.
Then you get the worst candidate and the party and all the baggage.
I don’t like Trump either. But I will vote. I hope it will be for someone other than Trump or Hillary.
Thanks for your response as well. I very much dislike the venom on both sides of the Trump question, and am glad that we can disagree without a flame war.
God bless!
Adios! Your vote is not needed and it was never needed for victory!
The following is not from me. It is from those who know your reality and your futility as losers.
One of the historic truisms in the past several election cycles is the Cruz Coalition, as currently assembled, is the first to stay home when their candidate does not win. The socially-minded voter will never vote for a populist fiscal conservative/socially moderate candidate. Cruz voters, and their advocates, are emotionally driven by social issues. Hence they yell a lot (See Mark Levin) and only respond well to others who are inside their echo-chamber.
Consequently neither Rubio nor Trump will try to gain/court Cruz voters. Why should they; the narrow-minded group will never vote for them, if they vote at all.
This non-voting truism is why the GOPe ignore the Cruz-like factions completely; because rarely will the GOPe be influenced by them. When Cruz Clan get angry and do not get their way they do not vote.
The modern way to deal with that faction is to make them angry, and they leave. Example: Questioning eligibility sets them off easily and they lose control. They might even invite another sketchy character, Glenn Beck, to help showcase their entrenched ideological moonbattery. See how easy that is? More exposure to the crazy = less votes in crazy camp.
Both Trump and Rubio will most likely ignore Cruz, as neither stands to benefit much.
The Last Refuge/Conservative Treehouse | February 21, 2016 | sundance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3400031/posts
Why trade a NY liberal Donkeycrat for a NY liberal RINO? I’ll do the same thing DUnold has threatened on several occasions...3rd Party.
..expecting big pick-ups in the House & Senate with a 'Hugh & Series" ' Republican turnout.
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