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The Case Against Women in Combat
Weird Republic ^ | 3/15/2011 | Thomas Clough

Posted on 02/03/2016 10:59:57 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski

Imagine your seventeen-year-old daughter fighting for her life in hand-to-hand combat with battle-hardened enemy soldiers. How long would she survive? Two minutes? One minute? There is a resurgent movement to push female military personnel into ever more intimate contact with hostile forces. The few arguments mustered in support of doing this focus narrowly on manpower issues or misplaced feminist vanity. In all the literature on this subject that I have collected over several years, not once have I found a proponent of women in combat who would speak honestly about the consequences of thrusting our daughters into man-against-woman festivals of death.

The vapid bravado of chair-bound bean-counting feminists was captured by Anne Applebaum in her Washington Post op-ed where she declared that "the argument about women in combat is over," because two female sailors were killed in the bombing of the USS Cole and women are deployed in Iraq. Ms. Applebaum is content that "American civilization has not collapsed as a result." In an editorial titled "The Pinking of the Armed Forces," the New York Times lamented that the United States "is simply a laggard on the topic of women in combat."

Right away we have a false argument: that because some women were the passive victims of enemy ordinance, therefore women are "in combat." A mortar shell landing on a mess hall is not what any normal person means by combat...

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TOPICS: Education; History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: combat; israel; military; women
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In 2013, the U.S. Military leaders formally lifted the ban on women serving in combat positions, with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta saying women have become an "integral part" of the military and have already demonstrated their willingness to fight during the wars of the last decade. The folly continues today with U.S. Military leaders calling for women to register for the draft...
1 posted on 02/03/2016 10:59:57 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I can’t think of a more cowardly act than putting women in front line combat as a policy.


2 posted on 02/03/2016 11:05:18 AM PST by clamper1797 (Lavoy Finicum was assassianated by the new American Empire stormtroopers)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Women in combat has been tried for thousands of years. It never works. Now is there a place for women in the military—yes. Women have always been a part of the military—as cooks, nurses, washerwomen, spies, and playing other rolls. It boils down to two views of the world. 1) we live in the same universe as always—filled with horror, war, and tyranny or we live in (2) a new enlightened world where people are different and somehow more civilized. I believe the world is much the same and the forces that have been in play since Sargon I (the first realy Emperor and one who broght 150 years of peace to the Middle East). We should be reluctant to go down this rabbit hole in our time.


3 posted on 02/03/2016 11:08:47 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

This is not really a movement to have combatant females; it is more of a commie movement to cut our military down to third world effectiveness in order to level the playing field.

Interesting reading is the communist’s use of women in combat in the Spanish Civil War. It was fun until the shooting started but did not end well.


4 posted on 02/03/2016 11:09:42 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Women shouldn’t be in combat and neither should 14 year old boys who are the equivalent in strength to grown women.


5 posted on 02/03/2016 11:13:37 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Ignoring the laws of physics and biology will be very costly.

6 posted on 02/03/2016 11:15:16 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Women and transsexuals shall not be assigned front line combat... PERIOD


7 posted on 02/03/2016 11:18:10 AM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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IIRC, at present all this means is that women will get to compete for combat jobs. If they can prove they are the most qualified, they get the job. If not, they move on to something they are qualified for.
8 posted on 02/03/2016 11:18:25 AM PST by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Females had their opportunity to express their opinions on females in the Combat Arms.

The silence from females was deafening.

They didn’t care because they didn’t have to. They couldn’t be forced to be in the military like males can.

I say let the females express themselves on this issue. Stand up and tell the government that females shouldn’t be in the Combat Arms.

Otherwise, pick up your rifle and charge that machine gun.


9 posted on 02/03/2016 11:22:43 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: clamper1797

You sir are infected with “Old-think”, expect a call on your viewer device with your invitation to the “righteous seminar”. Attendance is voluntary, but there will be a hold on your bank credits until it is completed.

Sincerely;

John Holdren O.O.F.T.

Office Of Free Thought


10 posted on 02/03/2016 11:40:59 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (Obama, leader of the Jayvee team.)
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To: blueunicorn6

I’m with you... where were the voices of women over the past year with all the talk of women in combat and lowering of standards, etc? They were silent, even supportive! (Not here in FR, but in all the media, etc.) This move will help force the discussion, and I agree, it’s up to women to finally make the necessary and correct noise on this!


11 posted on 02/03/2016 11:43:14 AM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: Jan_Sobieski

War is all hell. Let them see it up close and get a lot of folks killed. It’s the only way to get them to scream for change. So many abort their kids anyway, no need to keep them protected at home. The can collect shrapnel and get an education. Ann Coulter would be much educated, like men too.


12 posted on 02/03/2016 11:43:19 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: clamper1797

I am hopeful that if elected President Trump will put an end to it. Women have a place in the military but not in front line combat.


13 posted on 02/03/2016 11:46:45 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Any society that sends its women to fight before it sends its cane-borne old men and non-shaving boys deserves to be destroyed, and will be, by societies that do not make that mistake.


14 posted on 02/03/2016 11:48:20 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

This is not really a movement to have combatant females; it is more of a commie movement to cut our military down to third world effectiveness in order to level the playing field.

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Bingo!


15 posted on 02/03/2016 12:32:19 PM PST by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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To: Bigg Red

Liberals see the military as the biggest government social program there is.


16 posted on 02/03/2016 12:32:56 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Now that the ban on women in combat is lifted, it's time the ladies had to register for the draft like guys do when they turn 18. What would happen to all this female zeal for combat slots if you told the women that if billeted to a combat unit, they’d be treated exactly like the men and expected to go out and die just like the men. I foresee all female units of hard charging, PMS crazies going after the Muslim hordes! Yeah, right.
17 posted on 02/03/2016 1:05:18 PM PST by MasterGunner01 ( Barbara Da)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“This is not really a movement to have combatant females; it is more of a commie movement to cut our military down to third world effectiveness in order to level the playing field.

Interesting reading is the communist’s use of women in combat in the Spanish Civil War. It was fun until the shooting started but did not end well. “

Can you suggest some reading material relating to use of women in the Spanish civil war?


18 posted on 02/03/2016 1:40:45 PM PST by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: 82nd Bragger

I read an account of the Spanish Civil War years ago. I cannot even remember the name of the book, but it really seemed to be an accurate account, as far as I could tell. I still have the book in my attic, and if I see it in the next couple of days I will let you know, or even mail it to you.

According to this book, the women in combat were the result of the communist’s equality ideology, and the communist troops were poorly trained. I believe they routed the nationalists at first, and Franco mustered his forces in the Moorish region and invaded by airlift. According to this book, the women were no match.

Now, here is an account, but I am not sure whether it has an ideological lens:

http://vc.bridgew.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1265&context=jiws

Of course, the present ideologues who want to impose women into combat roles have no interest in historical research to see if it is actually a good idea.


19 posted on 02/03/2016 4:47:40 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Interesting....thanks a lot. One of the many benefits of being a Freeper is an education from like minded individuals, not libs.


20 posted on 02/03/2016 5:02:00 PM PST by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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