Never again.
Posted on 01/09/2016 5:02:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
More than any political candidate in memory, Donald Trump's value proposition to voters is simple and crystal clear: He's a winner.
Everything else follows from that. He doesn't owe wealthy political donors or political elites anything. He'll get the best trade deals and kick the most terrorist ass. He'll defy political correctness and tell it like it is. ISIS will give us its oil. Mexico will pay for our wall. Corporations will beg us to relocate their factories to the US.
Why? Because Trump is a winner. "We will have so much winning if I get elected," he assures us, "that you may get bored with winning."
This message has proven astonishingly resilient, to the point that the entire US political class is flummoxed. Attacks just bounce off the guy. What could ever bring him down?
(this is just the start of the article, full article below)
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/8/10732496/donald-trump-implode
(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...
Same premise as Trump supporters won’t bother voting, in this case, when the going gets tough, the Trump supporters will give up instead of rallying.
I have not yet decided which of the two candidates to vote for. But from what I see here and elsewhere is that Cruz supporters tend to be, a bit abrasive.
I am however, getting to the point where anytime I see the terminology “low info voter” I know the writer is a pompous idiot with issues of intellectual insecurity. A brainless and cowering maggot.
CNN, I want to commend you for something.
You have steadfastly, and mostly alone, been the one who was advocating for bringing American jobs back to America.
Quite frankly, I thought that ship had sailed. I had no solution, but it was just my observation that the situation was not going to change.
But you maintained that it had to happen, even in the face of a lot of mocking by fellow Freepers.
Then Trump came along and said the same thing. Trump has brought back the real possibility that we could ignite a manufacturing boom here in the states and make conditions such that jobs could come back here and thrive here.
So I want to acknowledge that you were right, and that you had not given up hope.
So, kudos to you.
And, go Trump go!
The Donald is a phenomenon nearly unique in American politics. As a kind of antidote to the fictional character John Galt in “Atlas Shrugged”, rather than simply disappear from the dramatic conflicts of industrial capitalism, The Donald has taken up the defense and aggressive expansion of the principles of wealth generation. This has struck a chord with millions, not just “conservative” or “libertarian” ideologues, but with the great mass of people who have been ambivalent about the direction in which the nation seems to be headed.
Something is clearly wrong, and not much of what is offered to “fix” the problem seems to be working. The Donald, with one broad sweep, defines the problem as overthinking the objectives, and changing the vision from some lofty egalitarian future, to the simpler concentration on problems at hand and getting the house in order FIRST.
Are his offered solutions simplistic? To respond to a question with another question, is simplistic a bad thing in today’s world? Overly complex constructs and rationalizations have muddied up the waters for a very long time, and serve no practical function that can be determined by most people.
The Donald shall not implode, by “going Galt” or any other explanation. He has seen a challenge, seized it, and like an agitated bulldog, he is not about to disengage.
Exactly.
Here's my view:
1. We Trumpsters don't WANT to go to any of the wannabbees. Mygosh, everyone of them is letting Trump frame the debate.
2. Go where?
Cruz is a politician...Trump is not. The GOPe hates Cruz, but hates Trump even more.
The GOPe, which is a part of the DC Uni-Party, with the RATS and the Media, needs to first remove Trump. Once Trump is gone, they and isolate and remove Cruz and substitute the losing candidate for the general election in order to get Hitlery into office.
I believe that Trump and Cruz realize this and are ahead of the game.
The fact that the head of the GOPe just told Hanity that he can rally the GOP to support either Trump or Cruz is indicative of Uni-Party fears.
This coming election is the American People against the DC Uni-Party or DC Cabal. The GOPe is nothing more than the lap poodle of the DC Uni-Party.
I will vote for Cruz if he wins nomination. However, I think Trump is the better leader. Cruz is not nearly as bold, takes few risks and when he has taken a bold strong position, it has been after Trump kicked down the door. Cruz was milquetoast on immigration until Trump kicked that door down for example.
Trump has charisma, and his positions on jobs and immigration are resonating even with blue collar democrats! Cruz will never get a single crossover democrat vote but Trump will get them in droves.
Question for everyone: If Cruz were to win nomination and he was up against Hillary and she accused him of sexism, war on women etc... would he hit her as hard as Trump did? Would he destroy Bill the rapist like Trump did?
Look at how Bill and Hillary were shut down by Trump. I have never seen them back off like that! Even the media couldn’t defend them. Trump disemboweled them before our eyes!
I am sure Cruz would fight back, but in a more gentle poll tested donor approved manner.
The “low information voter” kept the scam in place for establishment Republicans for decades. Trump woke up that sleeping giant. Now, when the elite use that put-down insult, it’s (1) incorrect and (2) exposes their elitism.
Never again.
As an engineer of 45-years experience, I firmly believe in the excellence of simplicity.
Complex solutions, while entertaining in the entertainment industry, are not the prudent way to go.
I like Donald Trump’s “Cudgil Approach”. Testibus Prehende Corda Sequenter et Mede! (When you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow!)
Wish Trump would not be so thin-skinned on some lesser lightweight attacks against him and also lay off on attacking Ted Cruz. I still will vote for Trump in the primary but I’m a toothskin away from flipping it to Cruz instead if the attacks don’t stop. Cruz has been pretty classy with Trump overall but not the other way around and I don’t like that very much.
A Wile E. Coyote Trump Frustration Award entry as puny and this is rare these days. This was the type of silly crap we heard from the “experts” months ago. May Tokyo Rove was the ghost writer.
Have you watch Trump lately on one on one interviews? He is really smoothing out which is good and bad. His appeal is being course and anti PC.
[His sister is a flaming lib.]
If his sister has that much influence over his life, he’d be on welfare.
I support Cruz, but Trump will do well as long as he doesn’t apologize for telling the truth. That goes for Cruz as well. It’s why these two candidates are set apart from the others.
I give money and time to Cruz. Trump doesn’t need or ask for either but I probably would help Trump if asked.
Does that make me a Cruz supporter?
But the first sentence of this Salon article, freeper email, or whatever it was, told me the author is ignorant to what’s happening and is just throwing something out there.
Is Trump a winner? Yes. Absolutely. Is Trump being a winner a singular explanation for his support? Hell no. Trump loves America and us. That is far more responsible for his support. People believe that he sees America like we do. For the most part, he loves the things we love, he doesn’t like the things we don’t like. He values education, hard work, and standing up for beliefs. IMO those values have more than a little to do with his being a winner. And...he’s not a politician.
So find plenty wrong with every candidate including Trump and Cruz. But find plenty more wrong with the others. With Trump and Cruz, we’ll survive as a country. With the others that’s a maybe.
Survival trumps all else. And to become the America that we had been, we’ll have to survive now.
Kind of cute that Jeb and Hillary are the ones actually running on the mystique of being a winner isn’t it?
Trump’s formula is simple. Take popular positions that majorities in the United States support, but which have been defined as ‘off the table’ by political correctness and the media cartel.
Immigration - Supermajorites of U.S. citizens have wanted to stop illegal immigration for decades, but the elite oppose it.
Second Amendment - Super majorities have supported it for at least 20 years. Trump puts forward policies to actually defend it instead of just giving it lip service while undercutting it.
Islamic Jihadis - Super majorities support actively fighting the islamic jihadis. It has become potitically incorrect to even name them.
Patriotism - Trump supports a robust patriotism. It is politically incorrect to mention American greatness and accomplishments. A supermajority of Americans rejoice in American exceptionalism.
Political Correctness - A supermajority of Americans are sick of being harried and condemned by self-apointed censors and social justice warriors. Trump resonates with the majority by fighting back, not accepting their premises, and making them look like the fools they are.
Trump loves America
Love is more powerful than the hate and money/pose greed brought to the race by Clinton’s and bushes and the rest of them
He’s not going to implode. He’s not going to hand it over and he is not going away
First, Trump is not a narcissist. He is confident, and can be arrogant, yes, but he is not a narcissist. Narcissists have a hard time being empathic, and truly have a difficult time understanding and seeing themselves as a part of a bigger world in which everyone is important. That’s not Trump at all, IMHO. There are clearly politicians out there who fit this bill, and for them their positions feed the concept that they are ‘important’ and powerful and needed to ‘take care’ of the masses - who aren’t as clever as them. Again, that’s not Trump at all, IMHO.
Regarding the ‘feet of clay’ phenomenon that the author alludes to should Trump lose some primaries, I again humbly disagree. Trump has lost before, multiple times in life, but has shown a tenacity and resilience and fought his way through those times. I think a loss in any primary would probably result in more fight from him, and a greater effort. He doesn’t seem to be the kind of guy that gives up, and that is one of the main reasons his supporters support him.
They see someone who will truly fight for them, who isn’t afraid to say what he thinks, who defends his positions and statements with tremendous resolve when unfairly and falsely criticized or attacked, and who is willing to take on the very people who do think they’re above the rest of us.
He may not win, but this article is off base and wishful thinking by those opposed to him. I very much like Cruz, but beware the left using the supposed Cruz-Trump rivalry in their attempts to discredit and derail someone they are very afraid of. Plus, you just know that if Trump dropped out tomorrow all of the criticism, attacks, and falsehoods would be directed almost immediately at Cruz.
Enough already. Enough of this bashing of Ted Cruz for voting on cloture for TPA.
In order to place blame on Cruz for that vote you must be able to unequivocally establish several unprovable propositions:
1. That Ted Cruz knew or should have known that the provisions of the subsequent trade treaty (TPP) would be, on balance, negative for the American economy. You must be able to impute future knowledge to Ted Cruz at the time of the cloture vote on TPA.
2. You must be able to establish that proposition for a time in which no treaty had been negotiated.
3. That it was knowable at the time of the TPA cloture vote that foreign trade negotiators would consent to negotiate with the United States if our negotiators did not possess fast-track authority authorized by TPA even though they declared that they would not.
4. You must be able to prove that proposition when history unequivocally demonstrates the contrary.
5. If you concede the treaty negotiations would not have occurred in the absence of TPA, you must then unequivocally demonstrate that no treaty would be better for the American economy while other nations participated in a treaty arrangement, a treaty agreement which of course is unknowable and certainly unknown to Ted Cruz at the time of the cloture vote.
6. You must be able to establish unequivocally the proposition that TPP would have failed a two thirds majority in the Senate when it eventually arrived there for confirmation and you must impute that knowledge to Ted Cruz at the time of the cloture vote when no one has any idea what will be in that treaty. You must prove unequivocally that TPP would have been defeated by a two thirds vote.
7. If you can establish these propositions, you must then establish unequivocally the propositions that Donald Trump will somehow negotiate a better treaty deal, that Donald Trump would get fast track authority from Congress (or you must establish that other nations will deal with Trump without it), that Donald Trump will not start a trade war which tragically arms the American economy, that all of this and answers to all of these imponderables will have been known to Ted Cruz at the time he voted cloture on TPA.
Stop already with this mindless bashing of Cruz for a perfectly rational vote and a purely conservative vote in keeping with more than a century of American conservative practice concerning the negotiation of treaties on trade and other issues.
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