Posted on 01/09/2016 5:02:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
More than any political candidate in memory, Donald Trump's value proposition to voters is simple and crystal clear: He's a winner.
Everything else follows from that. He doesn't owe wealthy political donors or political elites anything. He'll get the best trade deals and kick the most terrorist ass. He'll defy political correctness and tell it like it is. ISIS will give us its oil. Mexico will pay for our wall. Corporations will beg us to relocate their factories to the US.
Why? Because Trump is a winner. "We will have so much winning if I get elected," he assures us, "that you may get bored with winning."
This message has proven astonishingly resilient, to the point that the entire US political class is flummoxed. Attacks just bounce off the guy. What could ever bring him down?
(this is just the start of the article, full article below)
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/8/10732496/donald-trump-implode
(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...
This article was sent to me by one of FR's own strident Cruz supporters.
He's a real good guy, but this race we seem to have chosen different candidates. This post I think is a good one to discuss.
Many supporters of other candidates, such as Ted Cruz seem to believe this post is completely accurate.
I don't agree, and would welcome a discussion of this. This seems to be the major source of disagreement we will see play out in the month ahead (and I believe it really may only be one more month, until we have a champion, but that is just my own view)
The Cruz supporters seem to think that what Trump has going for him is a sort of "winner" mystique. Once that is rattled by something, the thought goes, then Trump will simply dissolve.
I don't agree. Trump is strongly taking stands on very controversial issues, which happen to agree with my own virtually every single time he opens his mouth to take them.
He is for American job. (very, very big)
He is for American borders. He is for limiting immigration to legal, controlled immigration.
He is taking strong stands, in spite of massive counter-agenda pressure, and I am very much in support of virtually everything I have heard the guy say.
Of course Ted Cruz supporters feel the same way about Ted Cruz.
So here is a thread, we can talk it out.
Thanks everyone. This is free form, but please let's both sides keep it civil.
Thanks.
Source is Vox, to the left of about every other outlet
The article belongs on NBC.
Mr. Trump did not “attack” first.
Nor did he enable ObamaTRADE, like Cruz,
nor help Goldmann Sachs, like Cruz for his wife.
I think what he sent you is a Salon story from yesterday.
What count are we up to on the number of times the media predicted Trump’s imminent “implosion”??
All I can say is there are a lot of envious people out there who can’t stand Trump’s established record of success. These losers just can’t wait to see him fall on his face. They would like nothing better than to have Trump join them in their miserable state.
OTH I KNOW the other candidates will never deliver on the major issues of our time.
So it is between maybe and no chance.
Most will pick maybe.
I simply see a spirited contest with Cruz and Trump at the top and believe Cruz will upset Trump early and often. No “dissolving” just a contest one man wins.
You are NEVER disappointing, central_va. At least to me.
(I know. Autocorrect strikes again)
Auto correct and no coffee = posts that look stupid.
Sorry but I’m not going to click on some link just to confirm it’s someone’s opinion. I deal in facts.
Your post makes too much sense. I’m afraid I must ban you from all future Trump/Cruz discussions.
So are you the other FReepers lawyer or butler or something?
Weak.
Personally, I support Trump. He’s not perfect. Chances are if he becomes president, I’d be disappointed, because he won’t live up to all of his promises. But, I do believe that he is the only candidate who will actually take the fight to Clinton, and be ruthless about it, I don’t think any of the others will do that.
If Clinton wins, she will be 0bama on steroids, and this country will be permanently damaged, if not totally destroyed. Having someone who is willing to fight her, as well as her lapdog media.
I’m also well aware that the gop establishment doesn’t support him, and will do everything in their power to prevent him from getting the nomination. The only way he will get it is to lock up more than enough delegates, and I do believe that is possible if he wins 3 out of the first 4 caucuses and primaries.
It seems to me that the lifeblood of technology is to make users look stupid & make us wait. It must be created/ programmed by chronic passive-aggressives. (at least that is my experience)
There’s a few really desperate Cruz supporters here. They make the rest look bad. Everybody knows who they are. Sad.
>>The Cruz supporters seem to think that what Trump has going for him is a sort of “winner” mystique.
It is amazing that people, especially on the Right, would see a “winner mystique” as a bad thing. Winners seem to be able to accomplish things that the rest of us could never do. America does not need a debater. America needs a person who is accustomed to winning and actually lacks the humility to say to themselves, “I don’t think I can do this, so I’ll compromise and see if I can do something much less.” The latter is the modern Republican Party in a nutshell. They are so afraid of losing that they never even try to win.
I am prepared to be upset over his Scotus picks. His sister is a flaming lib.
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