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Archaeological discovery yields surprising revelations about Europe's oldest city
Heritage Daily ^ | January 6, 2016 | heritagedaily

Posted on 01/08/2016 2:21:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The discovery suggests that not only did this spectacular site in the Greek Bronze Age (between 3500 and 1100 BC) recover from the collapse of the socio-political system around 1200 BC, but also rapidly grew and thrived as a cosmopolitan hub of the Aegean and Mediterranean regions. Antonis Kotsonas, a University of Cincinnati assistant professor of classics, will highlight his field research with the Knossos Urban Landscape Project at the 117th annual meeting of the Archaeological Institute of America and Society for Classical Studies. The meeting takes place Jan. 7-10, 2016 in San Francisco.

Kotsonas explains that Knossos, "renowned as a glorious site of the Greek Bronze Age, the leader of Crete and the seat of the palace of the mythical King Minos and the home of the enigmatic labyrinth," was the prosperous epicenter of Minoan culture. Scholars have studied the city's Bronze Age remains for more than a century, but more recent research has focused on the urban development of the city after it entered the Iron Age -- in the 11th century BC -- following the Bronze Age collapse of the Aegean palaces...

"No other site in the Aegean period has such a range of imports," Kotsonas says. The imports include bronze and other metals -- jewelry and adornments, as well as pottery. He adds that the majority of the materials, recovered from tombs, provide a glimpse of the wealth in the community, because status symbols were buried with the dead during this period.

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: antoniskotsonas; bronzeage; carian; carians; catastrophism; crete; ericcline; erichcline; etruscan; etruscans; godsgravesglyphs; hurrian; hurrians; knossos; lineara; linearb; minoan; minoans; tarshish
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1 posted on 01/08/2016 2:21:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

I would love to see those frescoes in detail. Is there a place where we can view extrapolations of what they looked like when new?


2 posted on 01/08/2016 4:36:22 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

There are a couple pics of frescoes here:

http://www.ancient.eu/knossos/


3 posted on 01/08/2016 5:41:44 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP
Thanks for the link. Interesting info. The most surprising take-away for me is the fact that Hellary is a lot older than I thought:

The Snake Goddess of the Minoans was the supreme deity who may have been an early version of the Greek goddess Eurynome who danced with the serpent Ophion across the chaos of the primordial sea in the act of creation. Images and figures of the Snake Goddess (now at the Iraklion Museum) have been found at Knossos and elsewhere in Crete dating from this period.

"The chaos of the primordial sea in the act of creation" -- that's clearly where we are headed if the she-beast gets elected.

4 posted on 01/08/2016 7:34:47 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...

One of *those* topics.
New Light On The Dark Age Of Greece, "Tarshish"
by Jan Sammer
...So far we have based our discussion of the identity of Tarshish on Biblical sources; but there also exists an allusion to that land in another source, a cuneiform text found about a hundred years ago at Assur on the Tigris. The text is part of the annals of the Assyrian king Esarhaddon, who ruled over Assyria from -681 to -669. It reads:
"All the kingdoms from (the islands) amidst the sea -- from the country of Iadanan and Jaman as far as Tarshishi bowed to my feet and I received heavy tribute."
The identities of the first two countries mentioned by Esarhaddon are known: Iadanan is Cyprus and Iaman is the Ionian coast of Asia Minor; the location of Tarshishi, however, became the subject of some debate, for this statement by Esarhaddon is the only time the name appears in any Assyrian text. It was noted that "Tarshishi" has the determinative mãt for "country" in front of it, as do Idanana, or Cyprus and Iaman, or Ionia. The only clue to its location was its being described as a kingdom "amidst the sea", apparently somewhat farther removed from Assyria than either Cyprus or Ionia.

When Esarhaddon's text was first published and transliterated the name was read as "Nu-shi-shi." At that time there were several conjectures as to the identification of this land. The city of Nysa in Caria was one suggestion; another was that the world refers to "nesos" for Peloponnesos. In 1914 D. D. Luckenbill ventured that "Knossos, for Crete, would fit better." Three years later B. Meissner made a fresh examination of the cuneiform tablet and found that the original transliteration of the name had been mistaken, and that "Tar-shi-shi" was the correct reading. The new reading took away Luckenbill's chief reason for his identification; yet he had the right solution, even if he reached it on wrong grounds. More recent scholarship identifies the land of Tarshishi mentioned by Esarhaddon with the city of Tarsus in Cilicia. Had Tarshishi been a city the name would have been preceded by the determinative URU; however, as mentioned above, it has mãt for "country". It is also difficult to see how a place in Cilicia would fit the description "from Iadanana and Iaman as far as Tarshishi." Clearly Tarsisi was farther west than either Cyprus or Ionia. These criteria are filled admirably by Crete.
and in case this comes up:
Caphtor
by Immanuel Velikovsky
The island Caphtor is named in the Scriptures. The usual identification is Crete, because the Keftiu bringing presents (vases) to Egyptian pharaohs are thought to be Cretans.

I prefer Cyprus as the biblical Caphtor and the Egyptian Keftiu.

If Caphtor is not Cyprus, then the Old Testament completely omits reference to this large island close to the Syrian coast. The phonetics of the name also point to Cyprus. Separately I show that Tarshish was the name of Crete.

It seems that the Philistines arrived in Palestine from Caphtor following the catastrophe that brought there the Israelites after their wandering in the Desert.



5 posted on 01/08/2016 11:55:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting.


6 posted on 01/08/2016 12:05:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: exDemMom; USMCPOP; ProtectOurFreedom
The 'restoration' of Knossos has come around to be seen as a Victorian era invention, rather than being authentic. Minoan painters were also living and working in Egypt during the 18th dynasty.

7 posted on 01/08/2016 1:00:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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I also found search hits on eBay and other online sources:
The Secret of Crete
The Secret of Crete
by Hans-Georg Wunderlich
on GoodReads
on ABEbooks


8 posted on 01/08/2016 1:12:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: BenLurkin

and from the FRchives:
9 posted on 01/08/2016 1:15:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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10 posted on 01/08/2016 1:16:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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11 posted on 01/08/2016 1:26:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"The chaos of the primordial sea in the act of creation" -- that's clearly where we are headed if the she-beast gets elected.

Well, who knows! Maybe this time, the GOP will nominate someone who actually wants to win - third time's a charm!

12 posted on 01/08/2016 4:06:18 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I visited Knossos several time in 1992-3 while shutting down Iraklion AS, Crete. Beautiful island—big, too. Khania is stunningly beautiful. Moved a lot of stuff out through Suda Bay Naval Air Station.

Still, we had a 25 Meter dish we needed to recover. We had it dismantled and trucked to Suda... Only thing to fly it out was a C-5. Due to Bosnia heating up we couldn’t get one scheduled. So, we left it by the end of the runway at Suda.

Years later I’m looking at Suda Bay on Google Earth—my dish pieces were still there!!!

I just checked again and they’re finally gone. I wonder when?


13 posted on 01/08/2016 4:18:15 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

And who.


14 posted on 01/08/2016 4:21:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: USMCPOP

Thank you. I find ancient art fascinating, especially Egyptian art.


15 posted on 01/08/2016 6:24:10 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: SunkenCiv

They invented “Windex” ya know.


16 posted on 01/09/2016 5:27:45 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: exDemMom; Alas Babylon!; SunkenCiv; All

I Googled Images of Minoan Art and Artifacts and found this excellent link with many artifacts and some art, ENJOY.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Images+of+Minoan+art+and+artifacts&num=50&newwindow=1&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis5IGD-J7KAhWEeT4KHfQmAAkQsAQIHA&biw=1600&bih=799


17 posted on 01/10/2016 1:33:08 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Thanks glee’.


18 posted on 01/10/2016 1:53:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: gleeaikin

Thank you. The ancient peoples certainly had unique ways of recording their world.


19 posted on 01/10/2016 6:28:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Tainan

They did, and it’s weird, because glass windows weren’t invented for a thousand years or more thereafter.


20 posted on 01/10/2016 3:42:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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