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Much of Ithaca built on top of Indian burial grounds, Cornell prof finds
© Copyright The Ithaca Voice. All rights reserved. ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2015 | BY JOE BYEON

Posted on 09/21/2015 10:18:00 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA, N.Y. — Kurt A. Jordan, associate professor in Cornell University’s department of anthropology and Native American studies, has found evidence through his research that suggests several parts of Ithaca lies above ancient burial grounds of Haudenosaunee Indians.

Jordan said his finding are based on a “paper trail” of books and documents, some dating centuries ago, because he didn’t have the permission to excavate in Ithaca.

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To: ETL

Wow! New York State looks like a beautiful place to visit.

Would never want to live there, or pay those taxes.
But it’s a beautiful place to visit.


41 posted on 09/21/2015 11:13:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ingtar

I once worked on a school being built on BLM land in New Mexico. The project was delayed for almost two years because mixed in with the present day garbage, spare tires, and other debris was discovered some indian garbage.

What makes this especially amusing is that the Rio Grand Valley in Southern NM has basically been populated by the same people (Indians who interbred with the Spanish) for the last 500 years or so. The people who currently live in that area were being denied a school because their ancestors used the land the same way as their descendants, as a dump.


42 posted on 09/21/2015 11:18:11 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: tioga

And did you have to learn the song, “Fifteen Years On The Erie Canal”? Still can’t get it out of my head 50 years later.


43 posted on 09/21/2015 11:40:17 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Beware the tyranny of the easily offended. (Stossel))
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To: MayflowerMadam

Nope, I missed that gem. Lucky you.


44 posted on 09/21/2015 11:41:33 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There are some stunning places and some not so stunning.

And the government has ruined the state and winter is nothing to write home about.


45 posted on 09/21/2015 11:46:52 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: BenLurkin
Explains the demonic presence there.

Too many "dream catchers"

46 posted on 09/21/2015 11:48:10 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: McGruff
That's a reasonably accurate map. An old Sioux legend declares that a remnant of our people escaped from a great battle in that area circa 400 a.d. in which tens of thousands were slaughtered and moved to the Ohio Valley and from there, over the next millennium or so, to the present Siouxian lands (most of Minnesota, Iowa, the Dakotas and parts of Nebraska, Montana and Wyoming).

Our cousins the Mandan buried their dead facing toward the Ohio Valley for this reason. Legend is that Minnesota was chosen because it was a land of many waters like this great battleground in western and central New York.

47 posted on 09/21/2015 11:49:18 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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As a postscript, I should also add that legend has it that the six tribes which later formed the Iroquois nations were also the meanest, nastiest and most victorious of those who survived the last great battle. That's why the rest of us moved elsewhere shortly thereafter.
48 posted on 09/21/2015 12:05:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Thank you for that very enlightening bit of Native American history!


49 posted on 09/21/2015 12:13:13 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: metmom

Now that you mention it I did see a film recently that was shot in Syracuse.

I have lived in Flint and Toledo. It reminded me of the worst parts of both towns.


50 posted on 09/21/2015 12:14:35 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ingtar

“I’m not sure why they are considered sacred now.”

Because there is profit in being a victim-class.


51 posted on 09/21/2015 1:11:10 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

#42 As a “sacred” dump!

their ancestors used the land the same way as their descendants, as a dump.


52 posted on 09/21/2015 1:57:32 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Vigilanteman

#47 Why didn’t your ancestors “Sioux” the other Indians? : )

our people escaped from a great battle in that area circa 400 a.d. in which tens of thousands were slaughtered


53 posted on 09/21/2015 1:59:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
Despite our fierce reputation, the Sioux (and the vast majority of Native American tribes) are basically peaceful people who would rather move than fight. We only got fierce, mean and nasty when we were driven from our lands too often.

Our cousins the Mandan were kind and hospitable to Lewis and Clark and other early explorers sharing food, lodging and even womenfolk with some of them.

There are accounts of Sioux on the Oregon and Mormon trails who could have easily massacred entire wagon trains of pioneers. Instead, we traded with them. There are pioneer journals from both trails which recount incidents where our trade and/or medical intervention even saved pioneer lives.

Even during the famed Sioux uprising of 1862 in the Minnesota River Valley and points further west and north, most of the Sioux declined to participate. There was even a small Mormon settlement in Otter Tail County where the local Sioux even protected the whites for the duration of the uprising. It was mostly the Santee band which did the killing and we all earned a one-way ticket out of Minnesota for the actions of a relative handful.

The aforementioned Mormon settlement tried but did not succeed in getting their government to make an exception for the local Sioux which protected them.

54 posted on 09/21/2015 2:35:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: McGruff

There are very good reasons for the Mohawks no longer being around.

L


55 posted on 09/21/2015 2:40:22 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Vigilanteman

All my information about Indians comes from Wagon Train and John Wayne : )


56 posted on 09/21/2015 2:54:40 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: ETL
Thank you for posting those beautiful pics of this area. I've lived near Ithaca over 35 years and appreciate its beauty anew every year.

The local politics, not so much. :-)

And the winter storms, not so much.

But it's a great place to live, all taken together.

57 posted on 09/21/2015 5:43:48 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

You’re welcome. Love it up there. Would drive to the parks and wineries from a campground in Marathon or the nearby Catskills. I live in NYC.


58 posted on 09/21/2015 6:16:27 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Casinos and cheap cigarettes


59 posted on 09/21/2015 7:53:23 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Photo courtesy of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian - A Haudenosaunee delegation crosses the U.S.-Canada border at Niagara Falls on July 14, 1928.

60 posted on 09/21/2015 7:59:16 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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