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The Fed has to be dumping money into the stock market? How can shoot up that fast?(Vanity)

Posted on 08/24/2015 6:45:45 AM PDT by Enlightened1

The numbers show a gain but the reality is it is still dropping.

Fake it until you make it is kicking into the market.


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To: Enlightened1

Buy limits are triggered in falling market, buying for short positions and closing option positions.


21 posted on 08/24/2015 7:02:48 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: EBH

A very plausible scenario. Astute comment.


22 posted on 08/24/2015 7:03:17 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: EBH
Oh you mean when we have a ‘Carrington Event’, or when the scientist at the CERN open up a new dimensions between September 15th all the way through Halloween?
23 posted on 08/24/2015 7:04:04 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Starboard

But what money?

The debt clock has been stalled at $ 18 trillion+ for months now with no changes and no one talks anymore about a debt ceiling


24 posted on 08/24/2015 7:05:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: EBH

I’m afraid you are correct. We will see a dead cat for a few weeks before the fun really begins in September.


25 posted on 08/24/2015 7:05:26 AM PDT by JGT
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To: JGT
I’m afraid you are correct.

One thing I've learned is not to trade the stock market out of fear. I NEVER sell because of fear. If people are afraid of the future, they should keep all of their money in cash and bury it in the back yard somewhere.

26 posted on 08/24/2015 7:07:31 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Enlightened1

Actually I was really referring to this:

Good question and one that crossed my mind this morning while out walking the dog.

Here is where my pea brain went on the question:

If the market reflects future events, then this drop is a needed correction to the Fed floating the idea of raising interest rates in September.

With the current debt load rates have to come up sometime, but no previous government has successfully recovered in this manner. This is just a flash of lightening before the big collapse in September, why? Because the Fed will raise interest rates in September anyway. In fact, this flash will settle down and events will seem normal. This will cause the Fed to raise rates, not by the .25 base points, but the idiots will raise rates by .5 or .75 base points in September.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3328435/posts?page=66#66


27 posted on 08/24/2015 7:07:42 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: Enlightened1

Or, those who want to buy after the futures sales would do so just after the opening like that.

Could be both.


28 posted on 08/24/2015 7:09:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Then after it crashes, they’ll blame the new president. Just like they always do.”
“And so will a whole of of brain dead, low info Americans. That’s how we got here in the first place.”

Well, GW Bush and the Rinos have to shoulder some, in fact, I blame Boner and Turtle just as much as the Dems


29 posted on 08/24/2015 7:09:17 AM PDT by navet97
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To: Enlightened1

At open, SPX dividend yield exceeded the 10 year note yield.


30 posted on 08/24/2015 7:10:43 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Enlightened1

"Alright, boys. We tanked the prices. Now, let's load up!"

31 posted on 08/24/2015 7:11:38 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: silverleaf

The Fed can control the direction of the market through a form of margin buying via their Wall Street surrogates. Its inconceivable that they do not do this on a regular basis. Recall the Fed’s obsession with the market’s “wealth effect”. It wants to maintain the illusion of prosperity.

Not many people realize the debt has been frozen. Five gold stars to you for that one! But the debt pales in comparison to our $97 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities. That’s a liability to EACH taxpayer of $820,000.


32 posted on 08/24/2015 7:13:29 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: navet97

Correct. There is no leadership from the “loyal opposition”.


33 posted on 08/24/2015 7:14:40 AM PDT by Starboard
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Fed Dithers On Hike As Emerging Markets Throw Tantrum

BY ANDREA RIQUIER, INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY

08/21/2015 05:56 PM ET

Emerging markets are taking the brunt of the sell-off, partly in anticipation of Fed “liftoff,” but commodities and debt from oil-dependent countries have also been hit hard. The iShares MSCI Emerging Markets ETF (ARCA:EEM) tumbled to a six-year low Friday. The Shanghai Composite sank 4.4% after a Chinese manufacturing index hit a 77-month low.

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34 posted on 08/24/2015 7:15:17 AM PDT by EBH (There's a sucker born every minute)
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To: EBH

Because the Fed will raise interest rates in September anyway.

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I think that is off the table now. It could do irreparable damage to a fragile economy. Odds of a December hike are below 50% IMO. The Fed will look to stimulate, not deflate. Just my humble opinion.


35 posted on 08/24/2015 7:19:58 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Logical me
Of course the Republicans will get blame for the crash

They'll share blame, as they should. Republicans have their DC majority and the SC is majority-nominated by Republican presidents. Yet the beat goes on....uncontrolled debt, unconstitutional government, and financial moves which make the rich and disconnected more rich and more disconnected.

It's a no-brainer that only Trump has the passion, independence, and ability to get things done to turn this mess around. The others (including Cruz) should put it on "hold" for four years, and we can see who shows the best skills to help Trump turn the US around.

36 posted on 08/24/2015 7:21:04 AM PDT by grania
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To: Enlightened1

I always hear people saying the market is over sold, due a correction etc etc. But none of these people say what the DOW should be at this time. They certainly don’t present any financial info telling us what the DOW should be at. Just that its oversold and we’re all going to lose all of our money, and the world is going to end on September 23rd, and life as we know it is going to end... etc etc.


37 posted on 08/24/2015 7:22:58 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: Enlightened1
The Fed has to be dumping money into the stock market? How can shoot up that fast?

Right around 70% of trading in this modern day era is being done by HIGH SPEED COMPUTERIZED TRADING SYSTEMS.

They have the POWER to move the market directly and IMMEDIATELY.

In the past that was an aspect that was NOT possible.

Also would guess the FED supposedly still has a PLUNGE PROTECTION team that may be acting under these circumstances.

The DIGITAL era which was ushered in during the 90's is currently rolling "full tilt boogie."

38 posted on 08/24/2015 7:24:57 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: al_c

Some are blaming Trump for the crash because he is talking about China, illegals and other “anti-growth policies”, and we haven’t even had an election yet!


39 posted on 08/24/2015 7:27:09 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

That really comes as no surprise.


40 posted on 08/24/2015 7:28:55 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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