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Donald Trump Claims The 'Real' Unemployment Rate Is 18%. Here's What Wall Street Says.
Forbes ^ | August 6, 2015 | Dan Diamond

Posted on 08/06/2015 11:47:59 AM PDT by wtd

Donald Trump Claims The 'Real' Unemployment Rate Is 18%. Here's What Wall Street Says.

After Donald Trump announced his latest bid for the presidency, I reached out to get details on Trump’s plan to replace Obamacare, and posted that interview on FORBES last week. But for many FORBES readers, the most eye-catching part of the interview wasn’t Trump’s plan for health care.

It was what the Trump campaign said about unemployment.

“Mr. Trump believes that the real unemployment rate is over 18%, not the reported 5.5%,” a spokesperson told me.

Trump’s distrust of the government’s job statistics isn’t new. In July, he even suggested that the U.S. unemployment rate could be as high as 40% — well above what the Bureau of Labor Statistics has found.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; employmentrate; newyork; obamarecession; obamataxhikes; taxcuts; taxreform; trump; unemployment; unemploymentrate; unenjoyment
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1 posted on 08/06/2015 11:47:59 AM PDT by wtd
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18% sounds closer to it.

I was thinking it was in the 20’s.


2 posted on 08/06/2015 11:49:00 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: wtd

Potemkin Village:

“My policies really ARE working...!!!”

Yeah, right.

(spits)


3 posted on 08/06/2015 11:51:01 AM PDT by gaijin
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4 posted on 08/06/2015 11:52:09 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: wtd

And 18% is likely conservative, but good to see a candidate willing to question the “official line”.


5 posted on 08/06/2015 11:53:30 AM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: Nachum

How many fakers are collecting disability when they could work?How many couch-sitters out there sponging off friends and relatives?Gaming the system has been elevated to an art form.


6 posted on 08/06/2015 11:53:34 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Reno89519
And 18% is likely conservative, but good to see a candidate willing to question the “official line”.

I would guess mid 20's at least. I hope he throws this out in the debate for all to hear. The MSM BS needs to stop....

7 posted on 08/06/2015 11:55:20 AM PDT by Envisioning (4.13.15 - That awkward moment in history when 53 million racists became sexists...)
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40.7 %
8 posted on 08/06/2015 11:56:02 AM PDT by Homer1
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Author’s Bio:

I’m the executive editor of the Advisory Board’s Daily Briefing, a popular health care newsletter that goes out to more than 150,000 subscribers. I’m also a blogger for ESPN’s TrueHoop Network, a columnist at California Healthline, and a social media junkie. Posts are eclectic; views are personal. Let me know what I’ve missed – find me on Twitter at @ddiamond.

[insert facepalm here]


9 posted on 08/06/2015 11:56:39 AM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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To: wtd

Finally, someone of note has said it!...............


10 posted on 08/06/2015 11:57:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: wtd

This morning I hear on CBS radio that 100 million people are on welfare of some sort and 90% who have these debit cards withdraw cash and buy no services, rent, food, etc on the card. Hmmmm


11 posted on 08/06/2015 11:57:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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RE: Tonight's Debate:

8 Life-Long Politicians

VS

1 Doctor / 1 Businessman

Trump's major appeal is that he IS NOT a career politician.

12 posted on 08/06/2015 11:58:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun (I'll believe in man-made global warming when those that believe it, act like it.)
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To: McGruff

LOL!


13 posted on 08/06/2015 11:58:23 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Nachum

> 18% sounds closer to it.

I was thinking it was in the 20’s.

I would guess its in the 20’s too. I don’t think 18 % is high enough. It really depends on how you define “employed” and the feds knows this. Control the language; control the narrative.


14 posted on 08/06/2015 12:00:37 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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You know the saying “Torture statistics long enough and they’ll say anything you want?” Well, the unemployment statistic is so tortured much it should sue for protection under the Geneva Conventions.


15 posted on 08/06/2015 12:01:16 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: Nachum
18% sounds closer to it.

It does sound right, and everybody knows it. The government claims 5%, using various statistical tricks. But no one can possibly believe that out of an average 100 working-age people, only 5 cannot find good employment.

And this is why Trump is surging. What he says makes sense to almost every American. No wishy-washy crap from him.

16 posted on 08/06/2015 12:02:01 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: DannyTN

The ShadowStats graphs is the only one even remotely plausible, since there is no way in hell unemployment started dropping in 2009.


17 posted on 08/06/2015 12:03:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wtd

Article absolutely confirms that Trump is right, real unemployment is at least double the official government figure.

Then they quibble with him saying it’s even higher. Does that discredit him? Hell no.


18 posted on 08/06/2015 12:03:57 PM PDT by Williams
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“Unsurprisingly, health care has been a major engine of the recovery in the jobs market.”

And yet ALL of this spending increase is simply the result of more hundreds of billions of conjured-from-thin-air “money” borrowed from the FedResBank by the Fed government and funneled to state Medicaid programs and/or simply directly handed out as subsidies on exchange insurance polices. The economic impact is not sustainable and will collapse if/when the extra money is withdrawn and/or becomes increasingly worthless as money-printing continues unabated.

This kind of health-care spending is simply another form of “stimulus” spending by the government.


19 posted on 08/06/2015 12:07:08 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: jsanders2001

If you include unemployed and underemployed (the people who can only get get 25 hours a week so their employer can avoid the Obamacare mandate), then it must be around 25-30%.

I have a lot of friends who work in retail, grocery stores, etc, and I don’t think any of them are getting a full 40 hours a week.


20 posted on 08/06/2015 12:07:21 PM PDT by Boogieman
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