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being a school director, I'm familiar with the govt. indoctrination centers and asked if she learned phonics or by sight ..... immediately she responded "sight" .......

So I asked her to read the large lettered name on a thermometer hanging inches from her .... and she couldn't .... (INSTA-VUE) .....

She asked .. "Do you mean sound it out?", I said, "yeah" ....

She couldn't sound it out ................... Now ... Someone sent this to me in an e-mail ... and I've seen this example before but now I wonder... do I read it automatically because I can reason the word pattern ?

I'm 67 and I learned phonics via Dick and Jane and I learned at a very early age to read ... and to LOVE to read

What mechanism is happening here ?



1 posted on 06/09/2015 3:43:49 AM PDT by knarf
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To: knarf

> What mechanism is happening here ?

LOL, yeah, I’ve seen that in several different manifestations and never had any trouble reading them.

I don’t know for certain, but I believe I read somewhere once that your mind only picks out certain letters and fills in the rest of the word, first and last letters being most important. The only time your mind reads the entire word is if it never saw it before.


2 posted on 06/09/2015 3:47:49 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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The numbers used to replace the letters ‘somewhat’ resemble those letters. I guess the mind automatically fills in the correct letters based on the shape?


4 posted on 06/09/2015 3:56:46 AM PDT by sneakers
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his 4th grade daughter read something very well and I asked her what grade she was in and complimented her on her reading .....

What did She read well?

5 posted on 06/09/2015 4:00:35 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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It's the same thing as reading a paragraph in all caps as opposed to reading in mixed case. The mired case gives clues to the shape of written words that block letters do not. still, you have to have a robust vocabulary to begin with, or they're still just squiggles. Just ask Rachel Jental.

-PJ

7 posted on 06/09/2015 4:09:54 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Since the days of the manual typewriter,
I have had a strong mind.

“Measure your mind’s height,
By the shadow it casts.”
—Browning


8 posted on 06/09/2015 4:11:08 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: knarf

Is the (INSTA-VUE) supposed to be a link? If so, it’s not linking. I am interested in looking at the thermometer that she couldn’t sound out!

Can you please show it?


12 posted on 06/09/2015 4:27:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: knarf

H0w i2 9uff?


13 posted on 06/09/2015 4:27:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: knarf

I’d say your friend’s daughter memorized the card, seeing how she couldn’t read the thermo’s name. And in 4th grade, that’s a crying shame!


16 posted on 06/09/2015 4:30:50 AM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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I taught my daughter phonics when she was little. She could read by age two. This was when phonics started to be dropped in place of whole word recognition, and I wanted to make sure she could read.


22 posted on 06/09/2015 5:09:09 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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my two kids went to montessori school where each child had a task to perform which made them responsible and productive in the group and eager to learn. my son proudly announced he was the “garbage man”.. oh excuse me that is english for libtard “sanitary engineer”...
they could read and write in pre-school and they coasted in public school for the first 5 grades.....


24 posted on 06/09/2015 5:15:56 AM PDT by zzwhale
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The same thing happens with sounds I think. When you first send and receive Morse Code, you struggle a letter at a time...years later you are sending and receiving whole words and word groups, not even thinking about the letters. Learning a language..,same. With learning rapid Spanish, you’ll miss words, but the thought is clear to you. A mind is an interesting thing to have, too bad some have lost theirs.


26 posted on 06/09/2015 5:18:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else!)
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To: knarf

Bottom half versus top half of letters.

27 posted on 06/09/2015 5:29:04 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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It is just a different kind of font.


31 posted on 06/09/2015 7:34:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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My grandbabies (they will always be babies to me!), two out of three so far, are reading in kindergarten. Next one is only three but he's well on his way recognizing two and three letter words right away. I know that's not the point of your post, but I just think it's amazing they are reading so young and I hope to help make a lifetime joy of it for them.
32 posted on 06/09/2015 7:52:57 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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do I read it automatically because I can reason the word pattern ?

Yes. "Reason" being the key here.

Whole language (look-say) was developed because educators observed adults reading and noticed that they did not sound out words, but simply recognized them by sight.

They then drew the absurd conclusion that children could therefore do the same thus skipping the messy business of learning letters and the sounds they represent.

But the first several times one encounters a new word, it must be "sounded out". Over time, the process is automatized and the word recognized on sight.

33 posted on 06/09/2015 8:17:42 AM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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