I'm intrigued

e-mail ^ | June 9, 2015 | knarf

[knarf]

Yesterday, at a neighbor's house, his 4th grade daughter read something very well and I asked her what grade she was in and complimented her on her reading .....

[knarf]

being a school director, I'm familiar with the govt. indoctrination centers and asked if she learned phonics or by sight ..... immediately she responded "sight" .......

So I asked her to read the large lettered name on a thermometer hanging inches from her .... and she couldn't .... (INSTA-VUE) .....

She asked .. "Do you mean sound it out?", I said, "yeah" ....

She couldn't sound it out ................... Now ... Someone sent this to me in an e-mail ... and I've seen this example before but now I wonder... do I read it automatically because I can reason the word pattern ?

I'm 67 and I learned phonics via Dick and Jane and I learned at a very early age to read ... and to LOVE to read

What mechanism is happening here ?

[Westbrook]

> What mechanism is happening here ?

LOL, yeah, I’ve seen that in several different manifestations and never had any trouble reading them.

I don’t know for certain, but I believe I read somewhere once that your mind only picks out certain letters and fills in the rest of the word, first and last letters being most important. The only time your mind reads the entire word is if it never saw it before.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

We read words the way the Chinese read ideograms. Once you are familiar with a word, you recognize its pattern, and common words are easily read, even if distorted. We all sight read. Phonics, or sounding out, is a bridge, it allows us to quickly “decode” new words, and is the main advantage of a phonetic alphabet over ideograms, we can more easily recognize and assimilate new or unfamiliar words.

Try the trick above using unfamiliar words like “extirpate”, or “ineluctable” and the results will be quite different.

[sneakers]

The numbers used to replace the letters ‘somewhat’ resemble those letters. I guess the mind automatically fills in the correct letters based on the shape?

[mabarker1]

his 4th grade daughter read something very well and I asked her what grade she was in and complimented her on her reading .....

What did She read well?

[knarf]

It was a home made "card" that had scripture (I forget the verse, but it was adult reading) and the card was a Happy Birthday card

If I see her again today, I will ask

[Political Junkie Too]

It's the same thing as reading a paragraph in all caps as opposed to reading in mixed case. The mired case gives clues to the shape of written words that block letters do not. still, you have to have a robust vocabulary to begin with, or they're still just squiggles. Just ask Rachel Jental.

-PJ

[Terry L Smith]

Since the days of the manual typewriter,
I have had a strong mind.

“Measure your mind’s height,
By the shadow it casts.”
—Browning

[knarf]

Thanks ... that makes sense

[mabarker1]

OK
That darn sure beats some commie garbage from the public skrool system.

[UncleHambone]

An episode of Top Gear touched on that (reading based on shape). They had on the designer of British road signs who changed lettering from all-caps to upper and lowercase, against convention. The reason was that the brain can more quickly match the overall shape of the word after is was seen so the roadsigns could be read more quickly.

[Alas Babylon!]

Is the (INSTA-VUE) supposed to be a link? If so, it’s not linking. I am interested in looking at the thermometer that she couldn’t sound out!

Can you please show it?

[Safetgiver]

H0w i2 9uff?

[Alas Babylon!]

OH...

Is INSTA-VUE what the thermometer was named?

(Slaps forehead!)

[knarf]

yOURS IS JUST ONE OF A FEW REPLIES THAT INDICATE THE SAME THING ... THE SHAPE IS RECOGNIZED

bUT THE VALIDITY OF THAT AS A "METHOD" RESTS ON THE PHONIC COMPREHENSION FIRST, i WOULD THINK

damned caps lock ... and I type with my head down) .... (and too lazy to go back and correct it)

MY fear is .... they're teaching a sight method before the kids actually learn to read

We have a board meeting coming up in a week or so ... this will be ANOTHER fun accusation I lay on them.

OH yeah ... the neighbor girl is in my school district

[W.]

I’d say your friend’s daughter memorized the card, seeing how she couldn’t read the thermo’s name. And in 4th grade, that’s a crying shame!

[knarf]

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[knarf]

I do it all the time ... welcome home

[knarf]

THAT’S my suspicion and I intend to throw gasoline at the next meeting

[mabarker1]

tHAT’S ok i DO IT ALSO;)

i’D LIKE TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

i’M GUESSING THAT THE b-CARD WAS SOMETHING sHE READED SEVERAL TIMES AND HAD IT DOWN PAT BY THE TIME sHE READED IT FOR yOU.

wELL, GOTTA CHANGE THIS BAD KEYBOARD;)