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Men wielding power in hellish times(Wolf Hall's revisionism)
WaPo ^ | 04-30-2015 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 05/02/2015 9:25:34 AM PDT by NRx

“Wolf Hall,” the Man Booker Prize-winning historical novel about the court of Henry VIII — and most dramatically, the conflict between Thomas Cromwell and Sir Thomas More — is now a TV series (presented on PBS). It is maddeningly good.

Maddening because its history is tendentiously distorted, yet the drama is so brilliantly conceived and executed that you almost don’t care. Faced with an imaginative creation of such brooding, gripping, mordant intensity, you find yourself ready to pay for it in historical inaccuracy.

And “Wolf Hall’s” revisionism is breathtaking. It inverts the conventional view of the saintly More being undone by the corrupt, amoral, serpentine Cromwell, the king’s chief minister. This is fiction as polemic. Author Hilary Mantel, an ex- and anti-Catholic (“the Catholic Church is not an institution for respectable people”), has set out to rehabilitate Cromwell and defenestrate More, most especially the More of Robert Bolt’s beautiful and hagiographic “A Man for All Seasons.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: amanforoneseason; godsgravesglyphs; henryviii; hilarymantel; pages; renaissance; robertbolt; romancatholicism; sirthomasmore; thomascromwell; unitedkingdom; wolfhall
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1 posted on 05/02/2015 9:25:34 AM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

There are FReepers who are just as determined to attack More as the writer of this tv show.


2 posted on 05/02/2015 9:32:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NRx

Have been recording it, but haven’t watched any of the episodes yet.


3 posted on 05/02/2015 9:36:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

You’ll like it. I do. Especially that snake, Cromwell. PLUS, Damian Lewis is Henry VIII. Lewis starred in Homeland, Showtimes absolutely terrific series.

Anyway, Masterpiece once again produces — well — a masterpiece.


4 posted on 05/02/2015 9:43:13 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: NRx

I’ve never heard of this TV show before (I rarely watch TV), but after reading the review, I’m going to make a guess and say the writer of the series, Mark Rylance is a homosexual.

I’m relying on Krauthammer’s very brief synopsis, but the anti-catholic themes he describes seem so much the typical and hackneyed ones one constantly sees from homosexuals with an axe to grind.

Now I’m going to do some research on this Rylance chap to see if my hunch is correct....


5 posted on 05/02/2015 9:47:14 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NRx

I’ve got new for Dr. Krauthammer — history is distorted from the very first moment a historian puts pen to paper.


6 posted on 05/02/2015 9:51:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: TomGuy

I bought the books and read them before the series started. I have enjoyed both. Krauthammer is somewhat over the top in his allegiance to the Bolt fictional portrayal. Mantel makes her vision of the events quite stimulating.

The truth is in the middle of these views and unobtainable from this distance in years.The Henry in the mini-series is not so mildly outlined in Mantel’s books. There he is a lot more arbitrary and harsh — the “Majesty” that can give death at a whim, and does.


7 posted on 05/02/2015 9:52:08 AM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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To: NRx

All history is revised to one degree or another seconds after the event happens.

One thing I am certain of is that there was enough blame on all the players in Henry’s circle.


8 posted on 05/02/2015 9:55:09 AM PDT by llevrok (To liberals, Treason Is the New Patriotism)
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To: PGR88

Mark Rylance is an actor, plays Cromwell (brilliantly) on the show. Rylance is married, has two children.


9 posted on 05/02/2015 10:09:57 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: vladimir998
There are FReepers who are just as determined to attack More as the writer of this tv show.

Just as there are FReepers as determined to defend that blind zealot and sadomasochistic pervert.

10 posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:42 AM PDT by FredZarguna (On your deathbed you will receive total consciousness. So I got that goin' for me.)
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To: FredZarguna

“Just as there are FReepers as determined to defend that blind zealot and sadomasochistic pervert.”

You could not have done more to prove my point. Thanks.


11 posted on 05/02/2015 10:26:01 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: onedoug

ping


12 posted on 05/02/2015 10:49:40 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: BlackElk

*possible ping of interest*


13 posted on 05/02/2015 11:19:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Veto!

Thanks for saving me the trouble of pointing that out. I think Wolf Hall is lousy history but absolutely fantastic drama. IMHO, it’s without a doubt the best thing on TV. Outstanding.


14 posted on 05/02/2015 12:06:01 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: NRx
I'm watching this as well... Since discovering an ancestor who was imprisoned and tortured for being a Catholic during Elizabeth I, I've completely devoted myself to learning the history of the Tudor era that I did not learn in school. What I did not know anything about was the violent history of the borderlands and how that played out during Henry VIII.

As for the series, it's certainly better than "The Tudors" series on Showtime. But after watching the"Outlander" series on Starz (about the Jacobites), I find myself critiquing the costuming on Wolf Hall. I can't help it and it's getting in the way of my enjoyment of the series. Henry looks ludicrous parading around in his grandmothers bed quilt. When you compare that with the beautiful fabrics, gorgeous settings and accuracy in detail they've created in Outlander, Wolf Hall falls pretty flat.

15 posted on 05/02/2015 12:23:25 PM PDT by ponygirl (Put. A. Bird. On. It.)
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To: NRx; PGR88; pgkdan; TomGuy

For those who haven’t seen it, or even if you have, Masterpiece has very detailed rundowns of what happens in each episode:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/programs/features/recap/wolf-hall-s1-e1-15-essentials/


16 posted on 05/02/2015 12:47:21 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: NRx
Years ago, flipping through second hand paperbacks, I found one titled "The Tudor Police State."

It's had me thinking ever since.

17 posted on 05/02/2015 2:36:53 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
VIIIth had been readied to become Archbishop of Canterbury, and his older brother Arthur to succeed their father. As such, Henry was better qualified and better educated to run the church in England than the Popes were. :')
It inverts the conventional view of the saintly More being undone by the corrupt, amoral, serpentine Cromwell, the king's chief minister.
The Boleyn faction had managed to get Catherine of Aragon removed, as it had earlier gotten rid of Wolsey, predecessor of More. Cromwell helped get rid of More. Ultimately, Thomas Cromwell was exactly what Henry VIII wanted him to be. Those are the kind of officials all absolute rulers want. Of course, it wasn't enough -- when he finally made a misstep, he was given a show trial and executed.

Thomas' nephew was great-grandfather to Oliver Cromwell, victor in the English Civil War. Oliver was installed as the first modern dictator, and had King Charles I executed. Try that on for size, monarchy.

18 posted on 05/02/2015 7:35:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Oratam

>> flipping through second hand paperbacks, I found one titled “The Tudor Police State.” <<

I read a history of the Tudors a few years ago, just after having read about Stalin’s purges. It seemed to me that the ruthlessness of Henry the 8th resembled that of Stalin more than it resembled the characteristics of any other recent tyrant.


19 posted on 05/02/2015 7:50:06 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: CatherineofAragon

ping


20 posted on 05/02/2015 10:26:18 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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