Just to please the mob?
One of my stupid in-laws committed an armed robbery with a pellet pistol. He was caught and charged just as if it were real.
Duh! It wasn't natural causes or an accident. One person killed another therefore it was a homicide. If someone breaks into my house and threatens to kill me and I shoot him it is a justifiable homicide. The coroner doesn't make ruling on whether the killing was justified, just that it happened and what evidence can be obtained from the body.
Of course it’s a “homicide.” Any killing is a homicide. A homicide may or may not be a crime depending on the circumstances. Not really news IMO.
The question is, was the homicide criminal.
Big kid. Adds a little context.
Tragic...but not actionable.Criminally *or* civilly.
5’7” and 195 pounds is a very big 12 year old. I’m not defending the officer but he probably didn’t look like a young boy playing with a toy gun. With the hysteria that always follows mass shootings the officer could have felt a great deal of anxiety and pressure to protect everyone at the park.
Of course it was homicide...the kid didn’t shoot himself.
More specifically, it is called JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE.
(In our state we have both excusable homicide and justifiable homicide....the latter being when the state executes a prisoner, cops shooting a fleeing felon, etc.)
It was nice knowing you, Cleveland!
While this was obviously an accident, this is just going to become another excuse for a “shopping spree” when a grand jury rules that way.
The only people who COULDN'T tell it was a kid with a toy were the “highly trained” gubbermint workers in blue uniforms who showed up on the scene blasting away.
And we're supposed to trust our personal safety to these clown?
Of course its a homicide. The question is whether or not it was justifiable.
Cop showed up and according to reports of eye witnesses the cop got out of the car and shot him within two seconds. But then, did the kid point that gun at the cop? That’s the question the DA will bring up.
“Loehmann, who was identified as having fired the shots that killed Rice, joined Cleveland’s police force in March 2014. Previously, he spent five months in 2012 with the police department in Independence, Ohio, about 13 miles south of Cleveland, four of which were spent in the police academy. According to his personnel records, released by the city of Independence in the aftermath of the shooting, his supervisors described him as an emotionally unstable recruit with a demonstrable “lack of maturity” and an “inability to perform basic functions as instructed”, specifically citing an incident that occurred during a weapons training exercise.
An internal memo sent by Independence Police Department’s deputy chief to the city’s human resources manager described Loehmann as visibly “distracted and weepy” during gun range training and exhibiting a dismal performance in handling his gun, calling the incident a “dangerous loss of composure”. The memo concluded, “Individually, these events would not be considered major situations, but when taken together they show a pattern of a lack of maturity, indiscretion and not following instructions, I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies.”
This was just a TERRIBLE accident. I have no doubt in my mind that officer would take that shot back, if he could.
I gotta say though, with or without the orange plastic on them, I could EASILY spot a toy gun. Of course, I wasn’t there, and I have no idea what the lighting was like, or how the boy was acting with it.
Just tragic.
Well, DUH! It IS a homocide. The question is whether it was justified or not.
Decisions, decisions:
Roll up close enough to the person with the reported gun to potentially intimidate him and keep him from attacking civilians, or pull up far enough away to reduce his chance of hitting the cops if he shoots at them but reduce the chance of responding in time if he shoots at someone else.
Shoot when a suspicious kid who hid the object of interest in his waistband pulls the gun-like object from his waistband, after being warned by police, or wait and see what he decides to do with that gun-like object when two police lives and multiple civilian lives may be at risk. How much time do the police have if the object reported as a gun and being treated as a gun turns out to be a gun and the suspect decides to shoot?
Decisions are tough things, especially when there is little time. Whether the shooting was criminal is obvious - it was not. Whether the actions were good police work is a decision for the law enforcement chain of command, not for those of us who don’t have all the facts.
Tamir Rice, who was black,
EVERYTIME! without fail...
wheres the unarmed word??
Unarmed Black Infant ?
Benny Benjamin Crump yes thats Him!!