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Cleveland boy's death in police shooting declared homicide
Reuters ^ | 12-12-2014

Posted on 12/12/2014 10:59:03 AM PST by Citizen Zed

The death of a 12-year-old Cleveland boy fatally shot by police in November has been formally ruled a homicide, according to a county autopsy report released on Friday that found he was struck once in the abdomen.

Tamir Rice, who was black, was shot on Nov. 22 by a white police officer responding to a call of a suspect waving a handgun around in a Cleveland park. The weapon turned out to be a replica that typically fires plastic pellets. The sixth-grader died the next day.

The Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner's autopsy report said Rice sustained a single wound to the left side of his abdomen that traveled from front to back and lodged in his pelvis.

The shooting came at a time of heightened national scrutiny of police use of force and two days before a grand jury declined to indict a white police officer in the Aug. 9 fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri.

Rice was shot less than two seconds after the police car pulled up beside him in the park, police have said. They also released a security video of Rice in the park before and during the shooting.

Rice was 5 feet 7 inches tall and 195 pounds, according to the autopsy report.

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1 posted on 12/12/2014 10:59:03 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Just to please the mob?


2 posted on 12/12/2014 11:00:21 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Homicide means he died at the hands of another human being. It is not the same as murder.


3 posted on 12/12/2014 11:02:01 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Citizen Zed

One of my stupid in-laws committed an armed robbery with a pellet pistol. He was caught and charged just as if it were real.


4 posted on 12/12/2014 11:04:17 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Cleveland boy's death in police shooting declared homicide

Duh! It wasn't natural causes or an accident. One person killed another therefore it was a homicide. If someone breaks into my house and threatens to kill me and I shoot him it is a justifiable homicide. The coroner doesn't make ruling on whether the killing was justified, just that it happened and what evidence can be obtained from the body.

5 posted on 12/12/2014 11:04:24 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Of course it’s a “homicide.” Any killing is a homicide. A homicide may or may not be a crime depending on the circumstances. Not really news IMO.

The question is, was the homicide criminal.


6 posted on 12/12/2014 11:04:50 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Citizen Zed
Yes.

Big kid. Adds a little context.

7 posted on 12/12/2014 11:04:51 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Citizen Zed
I saw a photo of the gun he was waving.Even close up it looked surprisingly real.At a distance I'll bet it looked even more real.From what I've seen there should be no criminal charges or financial compensation for the family.Yes,it was sad...but it was nothing more than,and nothing less than,a kid who didn't know what he was doing.

Tragic...but not actionable.Criminally *or* civilly.

8 posted on 12/12/2014 11:05:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I think so.


9 posted on 12/12/2014 11:05:27 AM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Citizen Zed

5’7” and 195 pounds is a very big 12 year old. I’m not defending the officer but he probably didn’t look like a young boy playing with a toy gun. With the hysteria that always follows mass shootings the officer could have felt a great deal of anxiety and pressure to protect everyone at the park.


10 posted on 12/12/2014 11:05:34 AM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“The death of a 12-year-old Cleveland boy fatally shot by police in November has been formally ruled a homicide”

Duh ... Of course it is a homicide. But not all homicides are a crime.


11 posted on 12/12/2014 11:05:35 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Enterprise
Homicide means he died at the hands of another human being. It is not the same as murder.

Exactly. This is stupid. Of course it was homicide. He didn't die from ebola or a car accident.

The real question is was it criminal homicide or justifiable homicide?

12 posted on 12/12/2014 11:05:43 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Enterprise

I understand that, but we’ll see if the charges follow.


13 posted on 12/12/2014 11:06:34 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

A lot depends on the presence of that orange tip, or not.

Which keeps tickling my mind...

why wouldn’t a criminal paint his REAL weapon with an orange tip just to give him that one second’s hesitation advantage?


14 posted on 12/12/2014 11:07:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Citizen Zed

Of course it was homicide...the kid didn’t shoot himself.


15 posted on 12/12/2014 11:07:28 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Gay State Conservative

And then there’s this article:

http://courtsandsportsradio.com/2014/12/08/paint-conceal-shoot-individuals-painting-their-guns-to-make-them-look-like-toys-is-terrifying/

People painting their guns to make them look like toys. What’s a cop supposed to do? Wait to get shot?


16 posted on 12/12/2014 11:08:27 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The kid had no chance. The cop car rolled up to a few feet and the cop on the passenger side just shot him. Watch the video.


17 posted on 12/12/2014 11:08:41 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Of course it is a homicide.

More specifically, it is called JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE.

(In our state we have both excusable homicide and justifiable homicide....the latter being when the state executes a prisoner, cops shooting a fleeing felon, etc.)

18 posted on 12/12/2014 11:09:04 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: NorthstarMom

“With the hysteria that always follows mass shootings the officer could have felt a great deal of anxiety and pressure to protect everyone at the park.”

You’re probably right on that!


19 posted on 12/12/2014 11:09:11 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Enterprise

Exactly.

It’s been obvious since it happened that this was a homicide.


20 posted on 12/12/2014 11:09:51 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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