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5 Special Things Black People Lost When Schools Were Integrated . . .
Atlanta Black Star ^ | November 25, 2014 | Nick Chiles

Posted on 12/12/2014 10:03:34 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew

On May 17, 1954, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, that state laws establishing separate public schools for Black and white students were unconstitutional, violating the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The 9-0 decision was hailed as a major victory for the civil rights of African-Americans, paving the way for the integration of the nation’s schools. But in retrospect, while there was reason to celebrate the court decision, there were also many things the Black community lost after the Brown decision.

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TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: culture; education; integration; segregation
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To: uncitizen

But only for blacks. White people would be racist.


21 posted on 12/12/2014 10:46:08 AM PST by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Zora Neale Hurston was so far ahead of her time.


22 posted on 12/12/2014 10:49:32 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Olog-hai
False dilemma, never mind pure racism on the part of the author. Whatever school integration brought, it did not precipitate the Marxist destruction of the family among a great swath of blacks.

You cannot justify your comment in terms of the circumstances surrounding the phenomenon, you describe. The single most significant factor in undermining pride & identity in family values in both races was the switch in school policy. If you look at the birth statistics in both major races, from the late 1950s onward, you will see an absolute explosion in births out of wedlock in both races.

It was not necessarily the integration per se; but it was accompanied by other social agitations, designed to trivialize lines of descent, family pride, etc.. What I call "trashing grandma." In both races, girls were encouraged to reject the sort of advice--appealing to pride in one's own family values, etc..--that girls were likely to get at their grandmother's knee.

Indeed, if you look at the principle figures in sociological fields, whom the Supreme Court cited in Brown in support of their decision, you will see where the Marxist influence came in. It was all predictable. Myrdal in an American dilemma admitted that his views might seriously damage the Black Middle-Class.

William Flax

23 posted on 12/12/2014 10:49:54 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: AppyPappy; Fester Chugabrew
Why was it necessary to force integration on your community?

Even when segregation was prohibited, whites still lived in white neighborhoods and blacks still lived in black neighborhoods so while schools were not purposely segregated, they still remained largely homogeneous. The Feds and the social engineers just couldn't tolerate that so they used lawsuits to force school districts to bus blacks into white neighborhoods and occasionally visa-versa. This forced integration of poor (monetarily, scholastically, and behaviorally) students into nice schools was a large factor in the flight of the middle class into suburbs.

24 posted on 12/12/2014 10:50:41 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: RightOnTheBorder
The Feds and the social engineers . . .

They know what's best for everyone.

25 posted on 12/12/2014 10:56:32 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

They want you to click on five pages to read a short, one page article.


26 posted on 12/12/2014 10:58:38 AM PST by ansel12
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To: ifinnegan

Now I have to check this out and see if a sarcasm tag is missing from your post.


27 posted on 12/12/2014 10:58:49 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Yes, but a trip down that road has the potential to go quite badly. Can you imagine what could happen if we educate the country’s children according to skin color and/or parent’s heritage? Mexican schools, Somalian schools, black schools, white schools...it’s pretty easy to paint someone with a different skin color as the enemy and pure evil if from as a child on, you never have contact with one. In Minnesota’s history there was tremendous animosity between the Norwegian immigrants an the German immigrants, it was the kids getting to know each other in school that overcame it as the churches were all separate.

I don’t believe in bussing to force integration nor do I think public schools are a good option, ever. But as long as public schools are the way a majority of our kids are educated they should be assigned based on proximity to the student’s home not skin color.


28 posted on 12/12/2014 11:00:29 AM PST by NorthstarMom
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To: chesley

It’s never a two-way street.


29 posted on 12/12/2014 11:01:12 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: chesley

Oh Gawd, yeah! Even a white liberal couldn’t say that.


30 posted on 12/12/2014 11:03:54 AM PST by uncitizen (our government is treasonous)
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To: Olog-hai
These same black segregationists would be the first to scream if whites were to re-segregate in the manner they seem to be cheering for blacks.

The rule is they want to be separate when and where they want and to integrate when and where they want. You don't get a vote.

31 posted on 12/12/2014 11:07:34 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: cherry
..if he want to use a capital B for black then I demand he use a capital W for whites....

You've been the victim of a micro-agression.

32 posted on 12/12/2014 11:09:10 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
...while having the freedom to associate with whomever they choose...

With whomever mutually agrees.

33 posted on 12/12/2014 11:10:42 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Back in the fifties and sixties, the “Wizards of Smart” (hat tip to Rush) decided that poor black chillrun could only learn if they had a white child seated next to them. Next factor in the next great achievement of these same Wizards of Smart, the War on Poverty. These two wondermus accomplishments of equality seem to have doomed a vast number of American blacks to lives of poverty, crime and squalor.
34 posted on 12/12/2014 11:13:06 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
... they used lawsuits to force school districts to bus blacks into white neighborhoods and occasionally visa-versa.
They also bused blacks from their neighborhood schools in the 'hood to other schools in other neighborhoods in the 'hood.
Rochester NY was a thriving small city back in the day. So much so, they built Midtown Mall, the first urban indoor mall in the country (IIRC) - and their Main Street hosted dozens of small retailers ... and some not so small.
Then in the late 60s into the 70s, they started busing the homies across town and back, using the Main Street area near the mall as a transfer center. It became a war zone.
Within a few years all the stores on Main Street were gone - and a few more years later the mall closed.
The race apologists blamed it on whitey moving to the suburbs which was partly true ... they were fleeing for their lives.
35 posted on 12/12/2014 11:14:24 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

So what did “atlantawhitestar.com” have to say about the issue?


36 posted on 12/12/2014 11:15:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
Even when segregation was prohibited, whites still lived in white neighborhoods and blacks still lived in black neighborhoods so while schools were not purposely segregated, they still remained largely homogeneous. The Feds and the social engineers just couldn't tolerate that so they used lawsuits to force school districts to bus blacks into white neighborhoods and occasionally visa-versa. This forced integration of poor (monetarily, scholastically, and behaviorally) students into nice schools was a large factor in the flight of the middle class into suburbs.

I have some personal experience with this. My family lived in the East Bay during the 60s and early 70s, and we were involved in a busing experiment. My two siblings and I attended MLK Elementary School in Richmond, CA for a year (I was in the 4th grade). It was quite the experience. I did get in a couple fights, but only with other white kids (go figure).

If I did that today, I'd probably end up dead.

37 posted on 12/12/2014 11:16:30 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: NorthstarMom

The wrong conclusion that they’ve reached is that black culture can’t succeed because it is competing in a “white” (Western) cultural setting,

and that if only they were functioning with their culture within their own cultural expectations and rules,
they’d prosper.

It’s not true, and can be demonstrated.
The WESTERN (not, “white”, but actually “Christian”) cultural values are what cause prosperity -

WHEREVER THEY ARE TRIED.

Take the Jews as a positive example - by following the Jewish cultural ethics derived from the Word of God, they prosper no matter what society they are placed in.

The reverse never is true. And it’s because of the absolute superiority of one cultural set of values over the other - not because there is some “majority advantage” or “white privilege”.


38 posted on 12/12/2014 11:20:33 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Forced integration is as bad as forced segregation. Just leave people alone.


39 posted on 12/12/2014 11:25:21 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Does anyone care what whites lost when schools were integrated?


40 posted on 12/12/2014 11:27:28 AM PST by Nea Wood
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