For some reason this year old article is on the top of the most popular list on The Atlantic. I saw Starship Troopers when it came out and I understood immediately it was a satire on militarism and jingoism. The people who missed that theme must of been blind because the whole movie had fascist overtones. Hard to miss how Doogie Howser was dressed like a SS officer with the black leather jacket and cap.
1 posted on
12/02/2014 7:02:56 AM PST by
C19fan
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To: C19fan
What’s wrong with snappy uniforms?
2 posted on
12/02/2014 7:05:57 AM PST by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: C19fan
I enjoyed it.
#2 wasn’t that good.
#3 was okay and more like the first one.
4 posted on
12/02/2014 7:09:06 AM PST by
TomGuy
To: C19fan
The movie might have been satire, I am not sure the author meant the book as satire.
5 posted on
12/02/2014 7:09:11 AM PST by
Chickensoup
(Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
To: C19fan
“I understood immediately it was a satire on militarism and jingoism”
The book is the opposite. It’s also a great discussion on national service, responsibility, and the use of violence.
6 posted on
12/02/2014 7:09:30 AM PST by
Azeem
(There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
To: C19fan
Starship Troopers is satire, a ruthlessly funny and keenly self-aware sendup of right-wing militarism.
Except ... the most malevolent uses of militarism are almost invariably left-wing. The "right-wing" uses the military to ensure freedom, and to protect the innocent against those that would do them harm. The left uses the military to oppress, to steal, to subjugate, and for their own selfish purposes.
9 posted on
12/02/2014 7:11:37 AM PST by
jjsheridan5
(Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
To: C19fan
Rules.
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10 posted on
12/02/2014 7:11:45 AM PST by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
To: C19fan
Great book. Hot chicks in the movie.
11 posted on
12/02/2014 7:12:26 AM PST by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: C19fan
The fact that it was and continues to be taken at face value speaks to the very vapidity of the producers, directors, writers, actors....
Liberals always blame others.
12 posted on
12/02/2014 7:12:36 AM PST by
mrsmith
(Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
To: C19fan
One of the points often overlooked is the requirement that you serve in the military to become a full voting citizen.
13 posted on
12/02/2014 7:12:49 AM PST by
Blood of Tyrants
(Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
To: C19fan
Starship Troopers is satire, a ruthlessly funny and keenly self-aware sendup of right-wing militarism. In contrast with the book, exactly. But many take offense at being mocked.
16 posted on
12/02/2014 7:19:51 AM PST by
logi_cal869
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To: C19fan
Right Wing Militarism and Jingoism in the face of enormous evil bug invaders is a GOOD thing.
A time for everything under the sun.
17 posted on
12/02/2014 7:20:16 AM PST by
left that other site
(You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
To: C19fan
The movie bears little or no resemblance to Robert Heinlein's book.
His book is much better and when you read it he is very prescient about where society was headed when he wrote the book over 55 years ago.
To: C19fan
I love that movie!
Even the sequels were not bad
20 posted on
12/02/2014 7:21:44 AM PST by
Mr. K
(Palin/Cruz 2016)
To: C19fan
The movie is a pale impostor compared to the book. The director completely missed the philosophical point of a society that requires a level of dedication and service to become a citizen. In the book, the government isn't totalitarian militarism, it's a free society with a requirement of service in exchange for the rights of citizenship. Punishment is harsh by our standards, but short and painful, in order to teach. The director completely messed up the society Heinlein envisioned.
24 posted on
12/02/2014 7:30:20 AM PST by
The_Victor
(If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
To: C19fan
Pretty sure no one noticed anything but the young Jewess Dina Meyer and Jewess (by conversion) Denise Richards.
26 posted on
12/02/2014 7:36:45 AM PST by
Jewbacca
(The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
To: C19fan
The book was great but the movie was garbage except for the hot women.
28 posted on
12/02/2014 7:41:58 AM PST by
Bayan
To: C19fan
Dumb movie. Infantry using rifles to go after swarms of oversized insects. The book had them lobbing small nukes. I’d say the book’s parallel with reality was with Iwo Jima’s flamethrowers.
29 posted on
12/02/2014 7:43:25 AM PST by
Zhang Fei
(Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
To: C19fan
To: C19fan
I love the movie. It's clearly a smirking satire at points (the bug-stomping newsreel), mixed with righteous political pontificating ("Naked force has resolved more conflicts throughout history than any other factor. The contrary opinion, that violence doesn't solve anything, is wishful thinking at its worst; people who forget that always die."), hot chicks, great special effects, fantastic battle scenes. Visually exciting, fun dialog, good characters, action action action. What's not to love?
I knew for a long time that Heinlein fans HATED the movie, so I finally got around to reading it. Here comes the heresy - the movie was much more entertaining than the book. The book was endless pontification with rather mundane battle scenes and weak characters. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" was a far far better Heinlein book that covered much of the same political ground.
The one thing that has always bothered me about the movie though is the absolutely sub-standard weaponry the humans carried. If you have to shoot something a few hundred times to bring it down, you very obviously need a more powerful weapon. You're in the freaking future, for godsakes! Invent something that stops them in one shot.
35 posted on
12/02/2014 8:02:25 AM PST by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: C19fan
I agree, but how can anyone not like a young Denise Richards?
41 posted on
12/02/2014 8:27:25 AM PST by
LS
('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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