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Scientists say Indonesia cave drawings the same age as those in Europe
www.foxnews.com ^ | 10-09-2014 | Staff

Posted on 10/09/2014 6:36:18 AM PDT by Red Badger

WASHINGTON – Ancient cave drawings in Indonesia are as old as famous prehistoric art in Europe, according to a new study that shows our ancestors were drawing all over the world 40,000 years ago.

And it hints at an even earlier dawn of creativity in modern humans, going back to Africa, than scientists had thought.

Archaeologists calculated that a dozen stencils of hands in mulberry red and two detailed drawings of an animal described as a "pig-deer" are between 35,000 to 40,000 years old, based on levels of decay of the element uranium. That puts the art found in Sulawesi, southeast of Borneo, in the same rough time period as drawings found in Spain and a famous cave in France.

And one of the Indonesian handprints, pegged as at least 39,900 years old, is now the oldest hand stencil known to science, according to a new study published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

These are more than 100 Indonesian cave drawings that have been known since 1950. In 2011, scientists noticed some strange outcroppings — called "cave popcorn" — on the drawings. Those mineral deposits would make it possible to use the new technology of uranium decay dating to figure out how old the art is. So they tested the cave popcorn that had grown over the stencils that would give a minimum age. It was near 40,000 years.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Religion; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: cave; caveart; cavepainting; cavepaintings; caves; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; indonesia; java; macroetymology; maroskarsts; paleosigns; spelunkers; spelunking; sulawesi
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This undated handout photo provided by Nature Magazine shows stencils of hands in a cave in Indonesia. Ancient cave drawings in Indonesia are as old as famous prehistoric art in Europe, according to a new study. (AP Photo/Kinez Riza, Nature Magazine)

He/She/It sure had some long fingers!...............

1 posted on 10/09/2014 6:36:18 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

PinGGG!.............


2 posted on 10/09/2014 6:36:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Proof that aliens visited earth.


3 posted on 10/09/2014 6:37:42 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Visited?
They may still be here!.............


4 posted on 10/09/2014 6:38:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe they had a way of faxing cave drawings back then.


5 posted on 10/09/2014 6:38:43 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder; Cowboy Bob

These hand stencils are found on every continent, except Antarctica, and they are all very similar. That cave painter sure did get around a lot. Must be his version of “Kilroy was here.”........


6 posted on 10/09/2014 6:42:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

these types of stories always creep me out. These guys are sooo long gone, forgotten. Who know who they were. Yet, I’m sure at the time, they had the feeling they would always be around, and their time era was the most important one ever.


7 posted on 10/09/2014 6:49:53 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Red Badger

Probably MS13, they’re everywhere.


8 posted on 10/09/2014 6:51:38 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: MNDude

Uncle Albert/admiral Halsey
from Ram
“Uncle Albert/admiral Halsey” is track #15 on the album Ram. It was written by Paul Mc Cartney.

We’re so sorry Uncle Albert
We’re so sorry if we caused you any pain
We’re so sorry Uncle Albert
But there’s no one left at home
And I believe I’m gonna rain

We’re so sorry
But we haven’t heard a thing all day
We’re so sorry Uncle Albert
But if anything should happen
We’ll be sure to give a ring

We’re so sorry Uncle Albert
But we haven’t done a bloody thing all day
We’re so sorry Uncle Albert
But the kettle’s on the boil
And we’re so easily called away

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Admiral Halsey notified me
He had to have a berth or he couldn’t get to sea
I had another look and I had a cup of tea and butter pie
(Butter pie)
(The butter wouldn’t melt so I put it in the pie)

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Live a little, be a gypsy, get around
(Get around)
Get your feet up off the ground
Live a little, get around

Live a little, be a gypsy, get around
(Get around)
Get your feet up off the ground
Live a little, get around

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Hands across the water
(Water)
Heads across the sky

Songwriters
Paul Mc Cartney

Read more: Paul McCartney - Uncle Albert/admiral Halsey Lyrics | MetroLyrics


9 posted on 10/09/2014 7:00:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Steely Dan - The Caves of Altimira

I recall when I was small
How I spent my days alone
The busy world was not for me
So I went and found my own
I would climb the garden wall
With a candle in my hand
I’d hide inside a hall of rock and sand
On the stone an ancient hand
In a faded yellow-green
Made alive a worldly wonder
Often told but never seen
Now and ever bound to labor
On the sea and in the sky
Every man and beast appeared
A friend as real as I

[Chorus]
Before the fall when they wrote it on the wall
When there wasn’t even any Hollywood
They heard the call
And they wrote it on the wall
For you and me we understood

Can it be this sad design
Could be the very same
A wooly man without a face
And a beast without a name
Nothin’ here but history
Can you see what has been done
Memory rush over me
Now I step into the sun

[Chorus]


10 posted on 10/09/2014 7:02:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

Excellent!...............


11 posted on 10/09/2014 7:13:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger
There seems to be some sort of "contest" as to who was the first to hand-print. In the end China and India will always claim FIRST civilizations.

What we do TODAY is far more important so for me, it's all a big YAWN, WHO GIVES A RAT'S...?

Ms. Wet Blanket strikes again.

12 posted on 10/09/2014 7:14:57 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Note: this topic is from 10/09/2014. Thanks Red Badger. Sorry I missed this on the first go.

13 posted on 12/31/2014 10:45:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MNDude
"I’m sure at the time, they had the feeling they would always be around, and their time era was the most important one ever."

They're still here.

Who do you think we are?

14 posted on 12/31/2014 11:19:37 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: dfwgator
The Caves Of Altimira
(Steely Dan - YouTube)
15 posted on 12/31/2014 11:23:29 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: cloudmountain; MinuteGal

Well, it shoots holes in the “out of Africa” theory. Never for a minute believed all humans came from Africa, not for one single minute. Here is more proof, IMHO.


16 posted on 12/31/2014 8:26:03 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: flaglady47
Well, it shoots holes in the “out of Africa” theory. Never for a minute believed all humans came from Africa, not for one single minute. Here is more proof, IMHO.

One article you agree with and you have proof positive of the origin of humanity. Lol.

Take a college course on anthropology and get some FACTS. You can even AUDIT the class...just for the benefit of learning FACTS about the origin of homo sapiens sapiens (Yes, TWO 'sapiens' there.)

17 posted on 12/31/2014 9:03:14 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain; MinuteGal

“Take a college course on anthropology and get some FACTS. You can even AUDIT the class...just for the benefit of learning FACTS about the origin of homo sapiens sapiens (Yes, TWO ‘sapiens’ there.)”

I did take a college anthropology course at UIC in Chicago and got an A, so there goes your advice, Mr. Smarty Pants. There are lots of people out there who think exactly like I do, not as you obviously do. Sorry, I don’t subscribe to the politically correct theory of all peoples originating out of Africa and migrating all over the globe. You have your beliefs, I have mine. Mine are right, your’s are wrong.

Sincerely, Ms. Smarty Pants.


18 posted on 12/31/2014 9:38:31 PM PST by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: flaglady47
Mine are right, your’s are wrong.

Lol.
Just curious, is the "47" in your call sign your I.Q.? Just asking.

19 posted on 12/31/2014 9:48:54 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: flaglady47
I did take a college anthropology course at UIC in Chicago and got an A, so there goes your advice, Mr. Smarty Pants.

====================================

I am FEMALE.
So much for YOUR assumptions, Ms. NOT-SO-SMARTy Pants: Wrong again.

20 posted on 12/31/2014 9:53:53 PM PST by cloudmountain
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