Posted on 08/08/2014 4:18:53 PM PDT by Kartographer
What’s most bizarre and frustrating about all of this is that neither the U.S. government or the Centers for Disease Control have provided any actionable information or advice to the American public. They maintain that they have the facilities to stop any such outbreak and continue to tout the narrative that there is nothing to fear, because they have it all under control.
Should even one single case pop up in a random U.S. city, that narrative will fall apart instantly. If someone in Georgia, Ohio, New York or any other state checked themselves into a hospital and are found to be infected with Ebola it will prove without a shadow of a doubt that all CDC containment efforts have failed.
In such an instance where Ebola is found to be in the “wild” anywhere in the continental United States you can be certain that panic will follow.
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Ok, you're going to have to explain that one to me - I'm a little slow.
It's from "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".
When a disease is classified as airborne,what does that mean exactly?Is it spread like a common cold or is it carried by the air for some distance?How far would a person have to stay away from the infected to be safe?
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Freeze dried lasts longer. Mountain House is supposed to be the best.
Most can’t afford that level of deconatamination supplies, have the means for a decontamination room, a disposal area, or have the strict medical training for proper decontamination. Even the trained personnel in Africa have messed that last one up.
Yes, it’s important to read the all nutritional and serving size labels carefully. It’s also important to buy a few long term foods to try out before buying to stock up. Everyone should check out:
http://www.youtube.com/user/imstillworkin/videos
The link is for her home food preservation how to and serious points on why/why not techniques. Specific to this thread is the one on Deydrated Onions where she demonstrates how you are getting much less product than what you think you are. Many will be shocked when they eat through a month supply of food in only 3 weeks.
That's and idea - let me think about that - Thanks... 'V'
Chikungunya is already in Texas. Hospitals in Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Georgetown and Dallas have had cases. There are 5 mosquitoes here that are carrying it. Traps are set out and any mosquitoes with it are sent to a lab in Austin. There isn’t much that can be done once you catch it so they say preventing bites is your best option (well, duh). Sorry, but avoiding morning and evening work outside and wearing long sleeves and pants in 100+ degree mid day weather might prevent a mosquito bite but will send you to the ER from heat stroke.
Here in the DC area, we have lots of African immigrants. After reading that article last week about bush meat smuggling in London, I’m actually more than a little concerned about Ebola here in the US.
Agreed.
I haven't lived on freeze dried and dehydrated foods other than using them on camping trips. I have also prepared and sampled them to learn how to prepare, how much to prepare, etc.
In my limited experience I would say the recommended serving amount on most containers is overly optimistic. It seems more like the minimum required nutrition for bare subsistence when you are not physically active.
For calculating how much to store I figure on about 1/2 to 2/3 as many servings for an active adult as shown on the container.
I think that is a much more realistic expectation and might even leave a little bit of a safety margin too.
I agree , that is why I made the suggestions in post #9 , and post #28
Sometimes you've got to improvise , educate ,and overcome\, as if your life depends on it .
No decontamination room : use metal tub with imrovised shower curtain with garden waterer overhead to decontaminate in vthe garage.
You know that the woman who contracted Ebola (now being treated in the US), never had any direct patient contact , right ?
Her job was aa a decontamination assistant - but got Ebola ,anyway .
Ever seen photos of the decontamination of doctors in that hot, humid climate in temporary tents.
There are several issues evident in those photos.. The Side walls were not secured .
Breeze under the side of the tent for ventilation ( airborne ?)
The DeCON Tent was in close proximity to the patients for ease of the doctors.
Doctors wearing street clothes closer to the front door, after being DeCON mixed in the same room as those in DeCon process. (cross contamination)
Use of air pressurized sprayer with bleach solution (splashback , possible atomized droplets viri made airborne)?
After her shift was over , was she herself DeContaminted ?
Were all medical protocals followed thuroughly , or did they cut corners given the over-worked conditions, the heat and humidity,shortage of trained medical staff ?
Medical staff contract diseases when they don't follow established medical protocols.
All that we can do, if faced with this situation , is to do the best we can, with what we have , and with what we can improvise .
Since there is no immediate crisis, the least we can do is to 'Prepare' now ; even the Director of the CDC says it is "only a matter of time before it arrives."
Prepare now for that possibility by using your intellect , rather than your emotions running wild .
There are already 20 known cases of Chikungunya in New York City .
We have 50% hydrogen peroxide that we use for many things, and diluted for the decontamination of fresh produce, meats, cutting surfaces, etc. It is better than bleach. It is safe. If we do not have to ship it (local clients) it is $15 a gallon.
If you do not know us you can get concentrated H2O2 at swimming pool maintance stores, probably 27% or so. Hydrogen peroxide is your friend.
An 8 oz. can of WD-40 now costs somewhere around $4 or $5 dollars - or more.
A 12 oz. can at Lowe’s is $5, at K-Mart it’s $8 dollars.
But you can buy a whole gallon of WD-40 for around $20 at places like Lowe’s and Home Depot.
Here is a link to it at Home Depot.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/WD-40-128-oz-1-Gal-Penetrating-Lubricant-10010/100043123?N=5yc1vZc24p
Correct , the portions are generally undersized despite what is listed on the labels, generally over-stated by 1/3.
Besides food value , also take in consideration calorie content , and fats . Both are needed for general nutrition.
Also , if using MRE's for longer than a couple days , pack in some Metamucil for 'regularity'.
Consider vitamin supplements ,duplicates of glasses/ or contacts, extra medications, first-aid kit , canned meats, etc.
As the LDS say : "Store what you eat , and eat what you store (food rotation)
“What the genetic analysis shows is that this particular clade of Ebola Zaire has been circulating in Guinea for a while, probably in bats (since they are thought to be the animal reservoir).”
Hey, exDem (really?) - you might want to remember that bats, along with primates (you are a primate) and guinea pigs do not make their own vitamin C. All other mammals do make vitamin C (destroys their organs, you know). And the other mammals make it in huge amounts when they need it to survive (maybe we should take heed).
Vitamin C to the rescue! In amounts hundreds of times the RDA of 60 mg...what say, Mom?
I like Hydrogen peroxide, quick , easy, and readily avialable now.
I know it as a bacteriacide, especially easy for cleaning tools andcutting boards. Especially convienient since it evaporates, and leaves no lingering odor.
I don't know of it as a virus killer though.
Virus have the ability to have hardened outer shell of solid protein.
It might evaporate before cellular penetration into the virus
Can you advise, or cite reports ?
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