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The Questionable Link Between Saturated Fat and Heart Disease
Wall Street Journal ^ | 05/02/2014 | Nina Teicholz

Posted on 05/04/2014 12:04:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604

"Saturated fat does not cause heart disease"—or so concluded a big study published in March in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine. How could this be? The very cornerstone of dietary advice for generations has been that the saturated fats in butter, cheese and red meat should be avoided because they clog our arteries.

The new study's conclusion shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with modern nutritional science, however. The fact is, there has never been solid evidence for the idea that these fats cause disease. We only believe this to be the case because nutrition policy has been derailed over the past half-century by a mixture of personal ambition, bad science, politics and bias.

One consequence is that in cutting back on fats, we are now eating a lot more carbohydrates— ...Excessive carbohydrates lead not only to obesity but also, over time, to Type 2 diabetes and, very likely, heart disease.

The real surprise is that, according to the best science to date, people put themselves at higher risk for these conditions no matter what kind of carbohydrates... Yes, even unrefined carbs.

The second big unintended consequence of our shift away from animal fats is that we're now consuming more vegetable oils...All of these got a boost from the American Heart Association—which Procter & Gamble, the maker of Crisco oil, coincidentally helped launch as a national organization...but it brought many potential health problems in its wake.

Seeing the U.S. population grow sicker and fatter while adhering to official dietary guidelines has put nutrition authorities in an awkward position. Recently, the response of many researchers has been to blame "Big Food" ... but it is also fair to say that the food industry has simply been responding to the dietary guidelines issued by the AHA and USDA, which have encouraged high-carbohydrate diets...

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: diet; health; heartdisease; saturatedfat
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To: ConservativeMind

Thanks, good info


21 posted on 05/04/2014 12:46:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

There are still some very interesting twists and turns on the diet front, however. With the 500 pound gorilla in the room being the intestinal flora.

At least one Phylum (out of 52), the Firmicutes, and 26 species of bacteria in the human gut microbiota, and the entire genus of Enterobacter appear to be linked to obesity and related metabolic complications, with obese people instead of having 30-40 major bacterial types in their flora, having almost 1/3rd of the physical space occupied by these “weight gainers.”

Others, such as Akkermansia muciniphila, and even the genus Bacteroides may fight obesity.

Studies indicate that long-term diet is strongly associated with the gut microbiome composition - those who eat plenty of protein and animal fats have predominantly Bacteroides bacteria, while for those who consume more carbohydrates the Prevotella species dominate. They feed on complex host-derived and plant glycans.

For its part, A. muciniphila lives in the mucin layer of the large intestines.

http://www.pnas.org/content/110/22/9066.full

It consumes Inulin and Oligosaccharide, which are not otherwise digestible by people. Along with other water soluble fibers, with which they may behave synergistically in promoting weight loss.


22 posted on 05/04/2014 12:47:08 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: neal1960
Triglycerides come almost entirely from carbs. They are needed as the in-between stage of a sugar becoming a fat, but we have far too much for our own good.

Remember, carbs can only be energy. Protein is preferentially muscle and all other tissue, but can become energy through a 25% calorie loss conversion process.

Fats are basically energy (like carbs), but some are required for the body to function (Omega 3 and 6 (in equal amounts, unoxidized and limited) and GLA (a type of Omega 6).

23 posted on 05/04/2014 12:47:55 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Boron is news to me—I’ll go look it up.


24 posted on 05/04/2014 12:48:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SampleMan

Me too. Finally decided to give it a whirl. Weight is down 36 pounds since Feb 1, BP has returned to normal, lipid profile better than ever, and I’m not starving myself. Beef, chicken, fish, eggs, once in a while bacon or pork, lots of vegetables with drawn butter, berries and apples and stone fruits for dessert, no sweet tropical fruits, and NO processed carbs at all, not so much as a slice of bread. Also laid off the beer and drink only an occasional dry red wine or Scotch on the rocks. I feel great.


25 posted on 05/04/2014 12:50:23 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Great point about gut bacteria. Aside from lettuce greens we may eat, the largest amount of Vitamin K we get comes from a variety of these intestinal bacteria, including E. Coli. Vitamin K is a very essential human need, and the main way most of us get it is apparently from this bacteria.


26 posted on 05/04/2014 12:51:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Rusty0604

probably the dumbest people I saw were people ordering donuts and they still put sugar in their coffee!

The entire donut is coated with sugar for crying out loud..


27 posted on 05/04/2014 12:54:55 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: BobL

“These guys are ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS. Atkins debunked the idea that meat/eggs/cheese is bad for you, and the book Wheat Belly pretty much concluded the story, by explaining just what TODAY’S wheat does to the (non-adapted) human body.”

Unfortunately the “studies” that seem to prove the merits of the Atkins diet are no better than the anti-fat studies.


28 posted on 05/04/2014 12:55:07 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Rusty0604
My take is there are 3 heart attack culprits: 1) Inactivity (clogs arteries) 2) Excess salt or sugar, 3) Insufficient alcohol intake

A little alcohol (preferably red wine) every day is a huge deterrent!

29 posted on 05/04/2014 12:57:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Interesting; any cliff notes on that article?


30 posted on 05/04/2014 12:58:11 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Cyman

“Unfortunately the “studies” that seem to prove the merits of the Atkins diet are no better than the anti-fat studies.”

I’d agree that Atkins probably went a bit too far in the anti-carb craze, but he started the discussion, which was LONG OVERDUE.

At this point, I’d still say that the evidence is on the side of those that say meat is ok to eat - and that is a HUGE CHANGE from conventional think of the past several decades.


31 posted on 05/04/2014 12:59:12 PM PDT by BobL
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To: mylife

Cut open an animal that has been Corn fed and cut open a naturally feeding animal.

The corn fed one will be the one with massive fatty deposits around the heart.
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That is an extremely interesting observation. Can you expand a bit on what you mean by natural feeding? Cattle and hogs for example.

TIA.


32 posted on 05/04/2014 12:59:13 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: max americana

And those same people will raise their eyebrows at me for eating bacon and eggs, as if I’m ignorant.


33 posted on 05/04/2014 1:01:39 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: max americana

Vente drip....or even better....Peet’s brewed at home.

Can’t stand those gooey coffee drinks.


34 posted on 05/04/2014 1:02:47 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Cyman

Actually those who ate closer to Atkins did better on some of the biggest studies out there—e.g., the Framingham and nurses studies—but the researchers were just so set in their presumptions that they ignored those findings and tried to extract something else from the findings.


35 posted on 05/04/2014 1:06:12 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: driftdiver

Processed foods are really seldom cheaper.

E.g., compare the per pound price of a box of breakfast cereal with a dozen eggs.

Plenty of the healthiest veggies are sold for less than a dollar a pound, and many meat cuts are available for $2 a pound.


36 posted on 05/04/2014 1:08:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mylife

It’s alot more than corn they feed them. Bone meal, sorghum, soy, etc are used as well.


37 posted on 05/04/2014 1:14:09 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: BobL
Gary has launched the NuSi initiative, for a while now.
38 posted on 05/04/2014 1:15:33 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Rusty0604

Fast food joints used to cook french fries in animal fat (lard).

Now they´re cooked in vegetable oil. Not only do they not taste as good, they’re less healthy.


39 posted on 05/04/2014 1:17:02 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: InterceptPoint

Ones that are not fattened on Carbs.


40 posted on 05/04/2014 1:17:09 PM PDT by mylife
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