Posted on 05/03/2014 2:03:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker
“Apple Inc., after seeking $2 billion in damages, won only $120 million from Samsung Electronics Co. in a jury trial over smartphone technology,” Joel Rosenblatt reports for Bloomberg. “The verdict sets the stage for the iPhone maker to seek a judge’s order banning U.S. sales of its rival’s devices that infringed its patents. The jury also found that Apple infringed one Samsung patent, awarding it $158,000 in damages.”
“‘It is hard to view this outcome as much of a victory for Apple,’ Brian Love, an assistant professor at the Santa Clara University School of Law, said in an e-mail. ‘This amount is less than 10 percent of the amount Apple requested and probably doesn’t surpass by too much the amount Apple spent litigating this case,’” Rosenblatt reports. “Jurors found that Samsung infringed two of the four Apple patents it considered in a case, which revolved around whether the maker of Galaxy phones used features in Google Inc.’s Android operating system that copied the iPhone maker’s technology. A finding that Samsung infringed the auto-correction patent was issued by U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh before the trial.
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The CONCEPT of a patent is quite conservative: You divulge your technology to the world, and in return, you get the privilege of exclusive use of it for 20 years. The APPLICATION of patent law is quite liberal: You give politically connected lawyers lots of money to protect your rights. The issue to me is how lawyers and law makers have mucked up a perfectly good concept.
Looks like a “buy on mystery, sell on history” kind of development. :’)
Apple is the worst thief of all of the technology companies. Anyone familiar with VHC and the technology they patented and has been stolen and used by Apple for many years. Apple’s response, even after a jury verdict for over $300 million against them as well as a .98% running royalty rate, is to litigate and bully VHC. I use Apple products but I am switching because the company is run by criminals who steal technology and bully anyone that stands up to them.
I wholeheartedly agree. Apple IS a patent troll themselves. I’ve been following a company that has patents on secure end to end encrypted communications. They won a 368 million dollar verdict against Apple on 11/6/2012. apple has used every trick in the book to fight it. They (and other big silicon valley types) helped craft the final version of the AIA. Among the provisions, they created new ways to fight ‘so-called patent trolls.’ (See IPR and PTAB). 0bama couldn’t spell patent troll without them but it became his meme du jour. They are deep into his pocket. Those new processes allow a loser in a patent suit to fire multiple shots on goal against smaller companies and their inventors by re-litigating the same patents and trying to get them declared invalid. all post jury verdict. it costs big to play this game...and the deep pocketed Apple has no qualms about doing so. Currently, the Federal Appeals court is considering an appeal from Apple against this small company to have the jury verdict overturned. We should have an answer in a few weeks. There’s a good site: ipwatchdog, that I read. I’m no lawyer, especially a patent attorney..but the new AIA (America Invents Act)and the further tweaks they are trying to add to it are making it much more difficult to protect small inventors and their intellectual property.
A monopolistic giant BLEEDS, as it exits the courtroom.
Apple, as I remember them, when I had my LC475, had the same frame of mind, as the high priest with the bells on. You, the lowly, unknowing, owner of one of their products, was treated with disdain, when asked ‘what went wrong with the machine?’
At least that was my experience with the Portland, OR Apple shop, located on the Columbia river floodplain, near to the vicinity of Leatherman Tools.
I’ve seen the abbreviated commercial on the tube...never seen the full version. Good one.
Cracks me up when Apple-haters rag on Mac products for being made in China and not in the USA.
When was the last time you bought a made in the USA computer?
As for Apple giving money to Democrats...have you checked out who Microsoft donates money to?
I know it doesn’t fit into your irrational Apple-hating viewpoint, but there isn’t, on a corporate level, a whole helluva lot of difference between Microsoft and Apple, except that Apple is much, much more profitable.
“Cracks me up when Apple-haters rag on Mac products for being made in China and not in the USA”
well when Apple “worshipers” try to play the Hate Samsung because they are Koreans card, then it is appropriate to point out how little of the so-called “American” Apple is made overseas.
“As for Apple giving money to Democrats...have you checked out who Microsoft donates money to?”
And when Gates flaps his mouth about needing immigration reform or some crap about “climate change”, I dont sit here and try to explain it away. In fact I have said that talk like that makes torrenting MS products so much easier for people. On the other hand the typical FR Apple apologist will quickly sweep that under the rug so they can get back to worshiping the fruit.
“I know it doesn’t fit into your irrational Apple-hating viewpoint...”
Projection is a terrible drug.
“.. but there isn’t, on a corporate level, a whole helluva lot of difference between Microsoft and Apple, except that Apple is much, much more profitable.”
Ooooooh. It like we are on a playground and you’re telling me that your dad makes more than mine. Seriously? It isnt your money. Stop trying to live vicariously through their wealth like it makes you some better person.
Go ahead, spout the propaganda repeating what Samsung spread on the PREVIOUS trial they lost to the tune of $930 million. Rectangles with rounded corners was NOT patented, contrary to the propaganda. That was part of the technical specification language, required by law, which must is a narrative that describing the design patent on the first iPhone and iPad in specifically constrained terms. Samsung's OWN design patents include the same phrase of rounded corners and rectangle, as part of each of their product descriptions. You fell for their reductio ad absurdum logical fallacy argument. . . exactly as they cynically intended.
Go ahead and ignore that Apple rightfully sued Samsung for EXACTLY duplicating the Trade Dress of the original Apple products down to the look of the chargers, changing only the color, the packing box their Galaxy Products came in, the connectors, etc. Samsung's own attorney, when pressed in the first trial, could not distinguish which phone was Apple's and which was Samsung's at a distance of just six feet, complaining, "I can't see the Samsung logo." Literally, the logo WAS the only distinguishing feature difference. The first trial revealed an internal Samsung document outlining every distinguishing iPhone feature. . . and ordering that it be included in their new Galaxy S1 — 132 pages of features that had to be exactly copied. Smoking gun, MrEdd. The document even detailed WHY the iPhone feature was desirable or needed. Lots of smoke and fire. Face it, Samsung is losing in every court in every Nation. They even lost in South Korea.
You are suffering from Apple Derangement Syndrome.
“… it is appropriate to point out how little of the so-called “American” Apple is made overseas.”
http://techland.time.com/2013/12/19/apple-mac-pro-made-in-the-usa-on-sale/
Apple “Made in the USA” Mac Pro Launched
High-end computer features all U.S.A. components
If you google american made computers you won’t find much at all, except Apple. Lenovo, the Chinese company, is starting to build here in the U.S.A. but largely with chinese components.
Yep, the old adage,
You can tell the leaders -- they're the ones with the arrows in their backs..."
...is as true now as it ever was...
And, no, he did not. He said they should develop their OWN products not steal Apple's products. He said Apple doesn't mind competition, but shouldn't have to compete against Apple's own technology. Quit making up your own facts.
“I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple’s $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong. I’m going to destroy Android, because it’s a stolen product. I’m willing to go thermonuclear war on this.”
What a drama queen!
So we find out all of the “stolen” stuff was a stupid slide to unlock feature and some other frivolous crap.
And now Apple spends their time “stealing” ideas from Android using their definition of it. Of course you will never admit to that. That would be speaking ill of Apple.
Switching to WHAT? VirnetX won a $200,000,000 settlement from Microsoft before filing suit against Apple on the same patents they asserted against Microsoft. . . patents they don't actually use. They are a "non-practicing entity." Are you aware that they sued Apple because Apple licensed the chips from Cisco that provided the networking. Apple insisted in court they DO NOT USE the technology claimed by VirnetX, using another approach to accomplish a similar result, and Apple showed what they and Cisco used, but the jury awarded the judgment anyway. The ruling is under appeal. In March of 2013, VirnetX LOST their suit against Cisco when Cisco proved their chips—the Cisco ICs that Apple uses—DID NOT USE VirnetX's patented technology at all, showing the the court and jury the same evidence and testimony used in the Apple case. Well, what do you know? Is it possible the Jury made a mistake in the Apple case?
Oh. . . GEE! burghguy, Nothing was stolen, except perhaps by some low information stupid jurors in the plaintiff friendly East Texas "Rocket Docket" Federal Court who decided to be "generous" with the "big bad rich company Goliath's money" and gave it to the "poor little business David." VirnetX's attorney couched it in terms of David versus Goliath.
To claim Apple is "the worst thief," in light of Microsoft's history and convictions, is ludicrous. . . especially when your high dudgeon is based on a case based on false claims. It's interesting the Microsoft admitted their approach did indeed use VirnetX tech and admitted they WERE indeed infringing, continuing a long term practice Microsoft has been known for. . . and agreed to pay $200 million. . . Yet you blame Apple?!?!?
That was the case VirnetX's attorney's argued in the Apple case, claiming that "If Microsoft admitted infringing our four patents, then Apple must be,as well! Make them pay us!"—ignoring the fact Microsoft did it in software while Apple's was in licensed Cisco hardware—but that argument was what the jurors heard and believed. But it wasn't true.
Nor is your claim of Apple being the "worst thief of all the technology companies" true. As a matter of indisputed fact, except perhaps by you, Apple is known in the industry for licensing every technology it uses. . . or outright buying the company and/or patents. That also is the truth. . . and they often buy them years in advance. Look at the licensing of the world-wide rights to all uses of LiquidMetal in Electronics. Think about it. The patents VirnetX asserted were acquired for under a million dollars. . . quite a bit under. If Apple needed these patents, don't you think with the amount they spend on buying and licensing patents, they could have outbid the guys setting up a non-practicing entity holding company intended to hold-up companies who ACTUALLY DO THINGS? Of course they could, and would have. Apple does not take those kind of risks. . . and you cannot truthfully show they've stolen tech. Urban legends and myths abound, but the facts don't support the propaganda when pulled out into the light of day.
When you are reduced to arguing how many angels will fit on the head of a pin, it’s time to put down the Kool Aid. It’s just sad...
Spoken like a true Apple cultist. Steve Jobs was notorious for stealing technology and it continues to this day. Cisco’s attorney confused the jury and was able to get a verdict that their hardware did not infringe, but the jury also found that VHC’s patents were not invalid. And here’s something interesting - - Cisco did not appeal that part of the decision. Cisco will eventually license VHC technology, which was designed by SAIC for the government to insure secure connections. Apple’s entire operating system, and especially FaceTime and iMessage, use VHC technology, and Apple’s feeble attempts at a workaround by using relay servers caused thousand of complaints before they stopped using it. Apple said at the hearing that they could do a workaround for less than $2 million and it would take several weeks. That was a bold faced lie which reduced the damages awarded at trial. Judge Davis recognized the lie (Apple later admitted it had spent much more for Akimai servers and was not close to a viable workaround) and penalized Apple for their dishonesty by increasing the royalty significantly. The CAFC is going to affirm the trial judge and then Apple will continue its delay tactics by seeking an en banc appeal and ultimately a shot at the Supreme Court, but they will lose because THEY ARE THIEVES. By the way, VHC has licensed their technology to 6 companies, all of which were stealing it prior to being sued. Microsoft is stealing VHC technology for Skype services but will soon have to pay up. VHC is not a NPE. The have available for purchase several apps to implement their technology, but why pay for something you can steal? Steve Jobs, may he burn in hell, stole everything that crossed his path. I will give you the fact that he was able to bring things to market in a way that made people want to buy, but he was a thief nonetheless.
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