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To: VanDeKoik

Apple is the worst thief of all of the technology companies. Anyone familiar with VHC and the technology they patented and has been stolen and used by Apple for many years. Apple’s response, even after a jury verdict for over $300 million against them as well as a .98% running royalty rate, is to litigate and bully VHC. I use Apple products but I am switching because the company is run by criminals who steal technology and bully anyone that stands up to them.


24 posted on 05/03/2014 5:28:24 AM PDT by burghguy
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To: burghguy
Apple is the worst thief of all of the technology companies. Anyone familiar with VHC and the technology they patented and has been stolen and used by Apple for many years. Apple’s response, even after a jury verdict for over $300 million against them as well as a .98% running royalty rate, is to litigate and bully VHC. I use Apple products but I am switching because the company is run by criminals who steal technology and bully anyone that stands up to them.

Switching to WHAT? VirnetX won a $200,000,000 settlement from Microsoft before filing suit against Apple on the same patents they asserted against Microsoft. . . patents they don't actually use. They are a "non-practicing entity." Are you aware that they sued Apple because Apple licensed the chips from Cisco that provided the networking. Apple insisted in court they DO NOT USE the technology claimed by VirnetX, using another approach to accomplish a similar result, and Apple showed what they and Cisco used, but the jury awarded the judgment anyway. The ruling is under appeal. In March of 2013, VirnetX LOST their suit against Cisco when Cisco proved their chips—the Cisco ICs that Apple uses—DID NOT USE VirnetX's patented technology at all, showing the the court and jury the same evidence and testimony used in the Apple case. Well, what do you know? Is it possible the Jury made a mistake in the Apple case?

Oh. . . GEE! burghguy, Nothing was stolen, except perhaps by some low information stupid jurors in the plaintiff friendly East Texas "Rocket Docket" Federal Court who decided to be "generous" with the "big bad rich company Goliath's money" and gave it to the "poor little business David." VirnetX's attorney couched it in terms of David versus Goliath.

To claim Apple is "the worst thief," in light of Microsoft's history and convictions, is ludicrous. . . especially when your high dudgeon is based on a case based on false claims. It's interesting the Microsoft admitted their approach did indeed use VirnetX tech and admitted they WERE indeed infringing, continuing a long term practice Microsoft has been known for. . . and agreed to pay $200 million. . . Yet you blame Apple?!?!?

That was the case VirnetX's attorney's argued in the Apple case, claiming that "If Microsoft admitted infringing our four patents, then Apple must be,as well! Make them pay us!"—ignoring the fact Microsoft did it in software while Apple's was in licensed Cisco hardware—but that argument was what the jurors heard and believed. But it wasn't true.

Nor is your claim of Apple being the "worst thief of all the technology companies" true. As a matter of indisputed fact, except perhaps by you, Apple is known in the industry for licensing every technology it uses. . . or outright buying the company and/or patents. That also is the truth. . . and they often buy them years in advance. Look at the licensing of the world-wide rights to all uses of LiquidMetal in Electronics. Think about it. The patents VirnetX asserted were acquired for under a million dollars. . . quite a bit under. If Apple needed these patents, don't you think with the amount they spend on buying and licensing patents, they could have outbid the guys setting up a non-practicing entity holding company intended to hold-up companies who ACTUALLY DO THINGS? Of course they could, and would have. Apple does not take those kind of risks. . . and you cannot truthfully show they've stolen tech. Urban legends and myths abound, but the facts don't support the propaganda when pulled out into the light of day.

38 posted on 05/03/2014 5:59:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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