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*Vanity* Fukushima Radiation likely to arrive on West Coast next month.
me | March 9, 2014 | Bushwon

Posted on 03/09/2014 6:32:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2

Drudge posted an article (from a banned source) which stated that very low levels of Fukushima radiation will likely reach the West Coast next month.

Incredibly, the article states that there is no federal agency which currently samples Pacific Coast seawater for radiation.

I find it disturbing that:

1. There is money being spent for many frivolous activities, yet three is no monitoring for radiation on the West Coast?

2. The EPA is monitoring puddles on people's private property, yet there is no monitoring of radiation on the West Coast!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: fukushima; geigercounter; halflife; ohnoez; radiation; tinfoil; westcoast
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To: steve86
When did you transfer over from Daily Kos?

When did you join MISO?

101 posted on 03/09/2014 8:50:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yikes.


102 posted on 03/09/2014 8:52:30 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon
I'm presuming you, like I, are on the WC.

As far as Oregon's concerned, March 22 should be interesting...

The complicit media has done such a good job for their masters that only a small minority have any concern at all...all the while the government keeps revising ALARA limits and the EPA is having some quite interesting things to say about their new PAG.

Fwiw, open this map and click 'all' in the upper right.. It's a sample map, but they seem to keep it updated. MY major problem with it is that it doesn't show offshore levels at Fukushima and that they drew a straight line across the Pacific for measurements rather than following the current eastward. I don't believe it's a realistic portrait of what's there, but interesting, nonetheless (and a whole lot more than NOAA is doing, the responsible agency for testing the ocean, which is nothing, at least publicly).

Also fwiw, I have documentation stating the Cesium 137 concentrations in the Pacific in 2010 from all the nuclear testing & post-England & Russia nuke accidents was:
.00000009 Bq/cubic meter.

On the basis of what appear to be 'low' levels (certainly when compared to EPA's action levels) of contamination, do the math: One sample at 4.5 Bq/cu meter is 5 x 10 to the 7th power...50,000,000 times background pre-Fukushima. Again, FWIW...

103 posted on 03/09/2014 8:54:31 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: rabidralph

Potasium iodide will protect you from radioactive iodine, I-131. Nothing else. The thyroid absorb iodine, radioactive or not. If you flood the thyroid with non-radioactive iodine, the thyroid wont absorb radioactive iodine.

But I-131 has a half life of 8 days. Fukushima no longer has any radioactive iodine. All of the iodine from Fukushima has since decayed. Your advice is more harmful than helpful


104 posted on 03/09/2014 8:59:00 PM PDT by kidd
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To: The Antiyuppie

The Atoll blasts were numerous, and both nuclear and Thermonuclear. Detonating such weapons on the surface, or in some cases below the surface (waterline) are inherently more “dirty” as far as nuclear fallout is concerned, so your point is crucial.

However, no “cleanup” that would be useful with current knowledge was ever undertaken as far as I can tell, but I may be mistaken with that premise. Even more to the point, such cleanup may not have even been feasible considering the difference in “terrain” between my two examples, so that point is also crucial concerning a valid comparison.

I suppose it would have been a better point to consider if the Marshall Islands would be better off if a concerted effort would have been made to decontaminate the affected sites by our country over the last 6 decades considering we were the ones who contaminated it in the first place, along with the question of would it have been viable in the first place.

So many variables...


105 posted on 03/09/2014 8:59:15 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: bushwon
This is very interesting and might help reassure you.

Radiation : The No-Safe-Level Myth

106 posted on 03/09/2014 9:03:01 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: logi_cal869

Thanks for the interesting take on media and EPA and the links. Not sure I would want to sign up for March 22...


107 posted on 03/09/2014 9:06:26 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Talisker

I assure you that sealife off the coast of Japan is heavily scrutinized. Because it is relevant near the source.

If you had any sense of dilution factors, you would understand that ut simply isn’t worth the expense to monitor west coast sealife radiation.

Get back to me when you learn of any Instances of elevated strontium or cobalt in fish smuggled in from Japan to the west coast fish markets. Because thats the only evidence that your silly biological vector theory will have any validity


108 posted on 03/09/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by kidd
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To: All

I’m hoping Godzilla comes out of the ocean.


109 posted on 03/09/2014 9:29:49 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: kidd
Dilution. That's funny.

Let's do the math (I have already):

Fukushima is widely accepted to have released into the Pacific Ocean between estimated 3,000,000,000,000,000 - 34,000,000,000,000,000 Becquerels of Cesium 137 (just one isotope, not including airborne).

If the Pacific Ocean is estimated to have 137 million cubic miles of water and we use a 'mid' number of 13PBq 137cs, by my math (done twice) that equals 2.399 Bq/Liter, or 1.6 Bq/cubic meter, if the entirety of all the released radioactivity were 100% diluted in the Pacific.

That's 26 1/2 Million times background pre-Fukushima. Even is my math is egregiously in error, it's still an order of magnitude, not 'diluted'. And the Pacific won't 100% dilute anything in 3 years, let alone 100.

Give the dilution garbage a rest. I urge you to learn more about Pacific currents. /s

Reference.

The total amounts of 137 Cs directly released into the sea have been estimated to be from 3.5 ∼ 4 PBq (Tsumune et al., 2012; Kawamura et al., 2011) up to 27 ± 15PBq (Bailly du Bois et al., 2012).

(for those not able to do the math this late at night, PBq is Peta Becquerel, or One Quadrillion Becquerels, or 15 zeroes)

Background Cesium 137 in the Pacific in 2010 was 0.00000009 Bq/cubic meter.

Oh, and for the sake of stating it, that "background" radiation people defending keep parroting? That's largely a result of all the nuclear testing, with a little bit added from Windscale & Chernobyl, or 950 PBq spread all over the planet. What will be Background or ALARA next year???

110 posted on 03/09/2014 9:32:33 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: kidd

You “assure” me?

That’s it?

Well, that pretty much nails the whole thing right there, don’t it?

Why didn’t I just ask for that in the first place?

After all, you have the ONLY evidence criteria that would validate “my silly biological vector theory.”

Of radiation concentration through linked interdependent biological ecologies?

Which of course is ENTIRELY different from, say, MILLIONS of other toxin concentrations studied by ENTIRE FIELDS of science that aggregate from the same mechanism.

Entirely.Different.

Except I really must protest, because I just can’t take credit for an entire field of study. You know, the “silly biological vector theory” that DOESN”T apply to radiation acumulation. That one. The stuff of entire fields of science.

That one.

Unlike my silly gasoline combustion engine theory. Or my silly heavier-than-air human flight theory. Or my silly electronic computing device theory.

Go away, troll.


111 posted on 03/09/2014 9:47:26 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bushwon

The “radiation” that will arrive will give you as much radiation as walking past an office building with a banana in it.


112 posted on 03/09/2014 9:54:42 PM PDT by dangus
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To: bushwon

Not to complicate the subject but the Japanese have tested for radiation in our wheat from the Northwest since Chernobyl. I worry about the tea & seafood harvested in Japan and imported here. Also tuna that has concentrated radiation over there & then migrate here for us to catch.


113 posted on 03/09/2014 10:00:03 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: EEGator

John Kerry believes global warming is one of the most dangerous things happening ini the world right now. I’d post “sarcasm,” but sadly it’s not.


114 posted on 03/09/2014 10:11:54 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: bushwon
Nothing to worry about. It was only a little melt down that they are still pouring water on because they can't figure out anything else to do. That water will continue to drift this way but as you see in this report it is only a little bit of radiation accumulating on the beach for the next 500 years.

Don't forget the added benefit of not having to turn on the lights when eating fish for dinner. The glow lights up the room quite nicely.


115 posted on 03/09/2014 10:25:10 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Perhaps it is the lateness of the hour, but I got a really good audible laugh out of your clever reply and picture in spite of the concerns you raise!


116 posted on 03/09/2014 10:36:35 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Cold Heart

Not to complicate the subject but the Japanese have tested for radiation in our wheat from the Northwest since Chernobyl. I worry about the tea & seafood harvested in Japan and imported here. Also tuna that has concentrated radiation over there & then migrate here for us to catch.


Ironic that Japanese are testing our wheat for radiation....and as a sushi & tuna lover and consumer who takes krill oil daily, thought has crossed for mind...


117 posted on 03/09/2014 10:38:57 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: dangus

The “radiation” that will arrive will give you as much radiation as walking past an office building with a banana in it.


and you know this how?


118 posted on 03/09/2014 10:39:52 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

IN all seriousness, I read that they are continually building reservoirs to hold the contaminated water :(


119 posted on 03/09/2014 10:42:24 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

The fish are already exposed.


120 posted on 03/09/2014 10:54:34 PM PDT by huldah1776
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