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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 48 NOVEMBER 29, 2013
11/29/13 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/29/2013 3:57:22 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: trisham

My step grand father used to raise quail. My dad used to hunt them. They are good to eat.


41 posted on 11/29/2013 7:49:06 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

I have no doubt that you will be rewarded for your efforts.


42 posted on 11/29/2013 7:51:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: left that other site

I had to drive 30 miles to get the vision exam. No way am I going to put off anything. Got to get it done. Besides, I wanted to make sure there was nothing optical behind the headaches I’ve been getting.


43 posted on 11/29/2013 7:52:56 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Ellendra

No fun, but I did find a nice jacket for half price that matches my gray corduroy pants.


44 posted on 11/29/2013 7:54:50 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Silentgypsy; Marcella

When it comes to preparedness, it is wise to copy Marcella. LOL


45 posted on 11/29/2013 7:57:41 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: murrie

Thanks so much for the beautiful picture. Love the flower.


46 posted on 11/29/2013 7:59:55 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: alphabeta

I haven’t really done that yet. I just love eating corn on the cob so much, that we never have any room for dent corn.

I do need to experiment though, because I would like to make my own corn meal. It’s the only way that you know for sure that you aren’t getting GMO or pesticides.


47 posted on 11/29/2013 8:02:44 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tammy8

Simple is more! These are the pleasures of life that are so helpful to having a great life. JMHO


48 posted on 11/29/2013 8:06:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I was in the garden for a few minutes today and noticed about 95% of my Garlic is up. The Vetch is growing slow due to the low light conditions this time of year but I’m sure the roots are working overtime. We’re hoping the grandson comes by tomorrow to empty the heavy deck planters. The Lady and I both have stressed our shoulders on the smaller pots plus she has lot of pain in that worn out hip that will need help soon. The weather continues to be unreal nice for this area that normally never sees the sun but I’m sure we will be on water rationing next summer unless we get a few massive storms.


49 posted on 11/29/2013 8:28:39 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: murrie

Beautiful Amaryllis you have there. We just put our 2 in the greenhouse to over winter for next years blooms


50 posted on 11/29/2013 8:30:54 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender

I think I got similar percentages for my garlic too. Glad you are getting some help for those heavy pots. Well I’ll add you to my prayer list for rain.

I am still thinking that the next time we get a stash of cash, it might be a good idea to build a cistern.

Course it has been a year, and hubby doesn’t have the above ground pool set up. That would hold 4000 gallons, and be enough for our entire garden during the dry spells I think.

The 10 gallons we get during the summer time is enough for my raised beds next to the patio.


51 posted on 11/29/2013 8:40:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Garlic is a confusion.
Plant in the spring or fall ?
When do you dig up the results ?
52 posted on 11/29/2013 8:51:28 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Garlic may be planted in the spring or fall. I usually plant mine in the fall. Pull it up when many of the leaves have turned brown and dry looking. This happens around June usually.

I do put row covers over the garlic during the winter. I don’t plant it in the spring, because I have so many other crops that I need or want to plant.

Anything that can be grown outdoors during the winter is planted in the fall here on our little acre. Winter wheat is a biggee as is winter rye. Helps the ground, provides wheat berries and or green manure to turn under in spring.


53 posted on 11/29/2013 10:19:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil

That’s the only way the wild thickets in Oregon reproduced, and they were all the same. Can’t speak for named varieties, though. You might be better off rooting cuttings; they are one of the easier ones for that. Remember though, that those ‘named varieties’ are likely patented, so probably illegal to propagate. ;-)

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/grow-elderberries-cuttings-46434.html

http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/95-005.htm

Only elderberry I grew from seed was a couple of small clusters of 3-6 of them. They sprouted from a pile of seeds I dumped for the chickens after making a batch of wine.

Hardy little buggers, but I never got any berries because we moved about the time they were getting big enough to start flowering. We do plan on getting some for here.

That wine is now 20-25 years old, and we had a small glass with dinner tonight, as well as using a bit to cook tonight’s venison shoulder chops.


54 posted on 11/30/2013 12:12:08 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: greeneyes

I hear you! 30 miles is a long drive if you aren’t seeing right!


55 posted on 11/30/2013 4:34:48 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: greeneyes

NC garden update. We have been fighting really cold nights for the last couple of weeks. Below 30’s which has become quite unusual for our area this early (Piedmont). Last year only had a few weeks like this in January/February. So far the fall garden is surviving under floating row covers and 6 mil plastic but it has been a pain covering and uncovering. We have collards, turnips, spinach, kale, onions, snow peas, and carrots. Will try to post a pic taken about a month ago after we put up a few “cold frames” for the row covers. It has grown a lot since then.

What we don’t eat we give to the chickens. They are doing better since we insulated the cracks and vents in their coop. One of my girls is in the chicken hospital with a broken toe. She is being “discharged” on Sunday.

Our last project was a three chambered composting bin made out of pallets. Turned out pretty good and we have a full bin “cooking” and hopefully ready by spring. Our next project is a series of raised beds made out of 4X6 timbers. Found them for $10 a pc on Craigslist and picked up enough to keep us busy all winter. They were originally used to hold up guardrails and such along side the highways and are being replaced with metal. Cheap and no creosote either. Should last a good while.

Best wishes to all. Happy gardening...Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Christmas! (I will try to post a pic of the garden (img src=”http://rs892.pbsrc.com/albums/ac128/jordansjourney/Mobile%20Uploads/2013-11-06_16-16-30_209_zps6baa0f10.jpg~320x480”;>


56 posted on 11/30/2013 5:36:18 AM PST by johnsmom (I must be dreaming 'cause this can't be real)
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To: johnsmom

Very nice !


57 posted on 11/30/2013 5:40:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: greeneyes

Oh, I know what you mean about the stinging drops. Hate them. And my eyes stay dilated so long.

Sounds like you had a wonderful Thanksgiving, though.

Thanks for the ping.


58 posted on 11/30/2013 6:09:58 AM PST by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: left that other site

Yep, and driving at night is the pits too.


59 posted on 11/30/2013 6:22:58 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: johnsmom

I hate the cold weather. The new climate map has put us in zone 6. However, someone forgot to tell mother nature, because we keep getting zone 5 weather, just like we always have. I’d like to have a little global warming here please.

That’s a really good deal for the 4 x 6 timber. I really do hate the hassles of taking off plastic every day. Usually, I don’t use plastic at all. I use double row covers for all temps down to 24 degrees, and don’t really take them off unless we get a really really nice sunshiney day. Once every couple of weeks, works pretty well.

When it gets colder than 24 degrees, I toss straw or a styrofoam, egg crate mattress on top of the row cover. Then when I want to, I just roll up the row cover a bit on the south west side, so that the sun can shine into the bed, but I don’t have to take the whole thing off and reposition it.

I’d really like to have chickens, but not sure we could get by with it here. Some of the neighbors would probably object.


60 posted on 11/30/2013 6:38:52 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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