Posted on 10/02/2013 11:08:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
The following is a screen shot of the comments section at Healthcare.gov and is circulating on the web. Among other startling facts, the user indicates that his fine for electing to 'opt out' of 0bamacare is $4,037.00 and would be attached to his tax return:
Even if what he says doesn’t comport with the law, that doesn’t mean the glitchy site isn’t sending out wrong calculations.
How stupid is it for the government to even try to make a site like this? Why in the world not just put up a page of links to the insurers’ own web sites and direct people there? The IRS doesn’t let you file taxes directly on their web site. They just link you up to third-party web sites.
Puzzled...
Same way they get States to address federal highway concerns (speed limits, etc.)...by controlling the flow of federal monies back to the States.
In this case, the Feds can tie block grant funds and such to the requirement that States accommodate this garbage legislation and suspend licenses for failure to insure. Nevermind that the person whose license is suspended may then find it impossible to continue employment (can’t legally drive to work, can’t renew license plates, etc.).
That just gets us one step closer to the ultimate dream of the 0bamunists: TOTAL CONTROL OF EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE, ALL THE TIME.
We are rotting from within, sadly.
Which is why they will have lots of people named Bugs Bunny registering with throwaway Yahoo mail accounts, in order to check things out before deciding whether to register for real.
The Driver’s license comment is suspect indeed. I’m an idiot. LOL! I was thinking a major glitch occurred but I guess I’m just a fool. LOL
Obamacare is a wealth transfer scheme designed to only inflict pain on the middle class.
...and done through TOR browsers.
Everyone's worried that the immigration Bill will establish a permanent 'Democrat' majority in the U.S.A.? 0bamacare itself ensures it!
http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fines-to-be-seized-from-bank-accounts/
HT Drudge, but I don’t believe anything from infowars.
Part of the army of new IRS employees hired (accountants and attorneys) is to match up tax returns with information provided by health insurers.
You don’t need to tell them if you have insurance or not, the fedgov is compiling a database for it.
Think kulaks and collective farms. It's meant to shut down the economy and give something (health insurance/farm land) to the people who didn't have it before so they will fight tooth and nail to keep it from being taken from them.
It took 5 seconds to Google up the real truth. Give it a shot next time. It keeps you from getting pwn3d.
The IRS can file a lien on your bank account if they claim you owe back taxes. Nothing goes in and nothing comes out. Notice of intent is sent by mail and if you didn’t get it, well that’s just too bad. That lien is not an outright seizure but a freeze. The seizure comes later after a tax court ruling (admin law judge, no jury).
The date on this article link is 2010.... this is not factual to the final bill... this is/was the senate bill. someone should or has posted the actual signed bill (oh, and the many holy writ obama waiver/delay decisions he cannot make but did).
The Obamacare bill explicitly prohibits the IRS from any prosecution for non-payment, and from assessing any levy on property”
Im sure the IRS will obey the law explicitly.
That is a good point, one I hadn't thought of.
It was quite brilliant actually. First wait four years and let your policies send 10s of millions more into poverty and then implement the grand daddy all all entitlements.
Fine. Sign up.
I will wait patiently while you experience REALITY overtake the insurance company’s regurgitation of Obama’s propganda.
This is all well and good. the missing element is the rise in cost of existing premiums driven by this “affordable” program.
If you cannot afford your existing care you would have to stop it— and then be uninsured. which is, of course part of the redistribution plan. Can tell you quite clearly, without even being updated by an existing plan— these premiums will double from the average listed by the CBO as estimate. So most will have to drop theirs (and the private insurers will go out of business...net— single guv expensive payor).
In which case there certainly IS a fine and penalty.
I agree that I think this is probably a hoax, based on the license suspension issue. However the way I read the requirements is that it is $95 per adult and $47.50 per child up to $285 for a family OR 1% of your yearly GROSS income, whichever is higher. Depending on your income this could greatly exceed $285. For instance in year one this could be $1500 per family if the family makes $150k per year. By year three is goes up to 2.5% or $3750 for that same family. I think most people are misunderstanding the penalty limits and the feds are downplaying the potential fines, but I may be wrong.
A $13,000 dollar a year deductible is like having no insurance anyway.
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