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Hayride: Preexisting Conditions Horror Story at Healthcare.gov
Tigerdroppings.com ^ | October 02, 2013 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 10/02/2013 11:08:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

The following is a screen shot of the comments section at Healthcare.gov and is circulating on the web. Among other startling facts, the user indicates that his fine for electing to 'opt out' of 0bamacare is $4,037.00 and would be attached to his tax return:



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KEYWORDS: aca; care; fine; fraud; health; heathcaregov; kaiser; kaisergraphic; obamacare; obamacarepenalty; obamacarerates; obamacarerollout; obamacarewebsite; obamascare
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To: AppyPappy

Even if what he says doesn’t comport with the law, that doesn’t mean the glitchy site isn’t sending out wrong calculations.

How stupid is it for the government to even try to make a site like this? Why in the world not just put up a page of links to the insurers’ own web sites and direct people there? The IRS doesn’t let you file taxes directly on their web site. They just link you up to third-party web sites.


21 posted on 10/02/2013 11:34:57 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: PuzzledInTX

Puzzled...
Same way they get States to address federal highway concerns (speed limits, etc.)...by controlling the flow of federal monies back to the States.
In this case, the Feds can tie block grant funds and such to the requirement that States accommodate this garbage legislation and suspend licenses for failure to insure. Nevermind that the person whose license is suspended may then find it impossible to continue employment (can’t legally drive to work, can’t renew license plates, etc.).
That just gets us one step closer to the ultimate dream of the 0bamunists: TOTAL CONTROL OF EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE, ALL THE TIME.

We are rotting from within, sadly.


22 posted on 10/02/2013 11:35:10 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
FReepers take it under advisement that once you log in and fill out information, even if you elect to NOT have health insurance, they still have your info. in a database and know you're not insured if you fill out the forms.

Which is why they will have lots of people named Bugs Bunny registering with throwaway Yahoo mail accounts, in order to check things out before deciding whether to register for real.

23 posted on 10/02/2013 11:37:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: justlurking

The Driver’s license comment is suspect indeed. I’m an idiot. LOL! I was thinking a major glitch occurred but I guess I’m just a fool. LOL


24 posted on 10/02/2013 11:37:45 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: GraceG
Doesn’t seem to be much of a penalty if you don’t use a Drivers License and you rent an apartment....

Obamacare is a wealth transfer scheme designed to only inflict pain on the middle class.

25 posted on 10/02/2013 11:38:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

...and done through TOR browsers.


26 posted on 10/02/2013 11:38:59 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: PapaBear3625
..and further destroy the private sector. Won't be long before EVERYONE works for the government. That's the goal of the self-perpetuating, permanent majority totalitarian state.

Everyone's worried that the immigration Bill will establish a permanent 'Democrat' majority in the U.S.A.? 0bamacare itself ensures it!

27 posted on 10/02/2013 11:41:30 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: AppyPappy

http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fines-to-be-seized-from-bank-accounts/

HT Drudge, but I don’t believe anything from infowars.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 11:41:41 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Part of the army of new IRS employees hired (accountants and attorneys) is to match up tax returns with information provided by health insurers.

You don’t need to tell them if you have insurance or not, the fedgov is compiling a database for it.


29 posted on 10/02/2013 11:44:03 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: PapaBear3625
Obamacare is a wealth transfer scheme designed to only inflict pain on the middle class.

Think kulaks and collective farms. It's meant to shut down the economy and give something (health insurance/farm land) to the people who didn't have it before so they will fight tooth and nail to keep it from being taken from them.

30 posted on 10/02/2013 11:46:25 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It took 5 seconds to Google up the real truth. Give it a shot next time. It keeps you from getting pwn3d.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 11:48:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Excellence

The IRS can file a lien on your bank account if they claim you owe back taxes. Nothing goes in and nothing comes out. Notice of intent is sent by mail and if you didn’t get it, well that’s just too bad. That lien is not an outright seizure but a freeze. The seizure comes later after a tax court ruling (admin law judge, no jury).


32 posted on 10/02/2013 11:48:16 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: justlurking

The date on this article link is 2010.... this is not factual to the final bill... this is/was the senate bill. someone should or has posted the actual signed bill (oh, and the many holy writ obama waiver/delay decisions he cannot make but did).


33 posted on 10/02/2013 11:48:38 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: justlurking

The Obamacare bill explicitly prohibits the IRS from any prosecution for non-payment, and from assessing any levy on property”

Im sure the IRS will obey the law explicitly.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 11:52:24 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Everyone's worried that the immigration Bill will establish a permanent 'Democrat' majority in the U.S.A.? 0bamacare itself ensures it!

That is a good point, one I hadn't thought of.

It was quite brilliant actually. First wait four years and let your policies send 10s of millions more into poverty and then implement the grand daddy all all entitlements.

35 posted on 10/02/2013 11:53:11 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: justlurking

Fine. Sign up.


36 posted on 10/02/2013 11:54:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention of the states is our only hope.)
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To: AppyPappy

I will wait patiently while you experience REALITY overtake the insurance company’s regurgitation of Obama’s propganda.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 11:54:34 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: AppyPappy

This is all well and good. the missing element is the rise in cost of existing premiums driven by this “affordable” program.
If you cannot afford your existing care you would have to stop it— and then be uninsured. which is, of course part of the redistribution plan. Can tell you quite clearly, without even being updated by an existing plan— these premiums will double from the average listed by the CBO as estimate. So most will have to drop theirs (and the private insurers will go out of business...net— single guv expensive payor).

In which case there certainly IS a fine and penalty.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 11:54:40 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: nascarnation

I agree that I think this is probably a hoax, based on the license suspension issue. However the way I read the requirements is that it is $95 per adult and $47.50 per child up to $285 for a family OR 1% of your yearly GROSS income, whichever is higher. Depending on your income this could greatly exceed $285. For instance in year one this could be $1500 per family if the family makes $150k per year. By year three is goes up to 2.5% or $3750 for that same family. I think most people are misunderstanding the penalty limits and the feds are downplaying the potential fines, but I may be wrong.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 11:55:08 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: CivilWarBrewing

A $13,000 dollar a year deductible is like having no insurance anyway.


40 posted on 10/02/2013 11:55:30 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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