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Hayride: Preexisting Conditions Horror Story at Healthcare.gov
Tigerdroppings.com ^ | October 02, 2013 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 10/02/2013 11:08:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

The following is a screen shot of the comments section at Healthcare.gov and is circulating on the web. Among other startling facts, the user indicates that his fine for electing to 'opt out' of 0bamacare is $4,037.00 and would be attached to his tax return:



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Is this disinformation? If not, it's rather chilling and definitely takes the 'Affordable' out of the Affordable Care Act.
1 posted on 10/02/2013 11:08:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Yeah I think it is a hoax. The max per family in 2014 is $285

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/affordable-care-act/faqs/how-much-are-the-tax-penalties-for-not-having-health-insurance-and-when-do-they-apply


2 posted on 10/02/2013 11:11:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Here’s what’s going on...They want you to account for every dime you have. They also want access to your bank accounts. That’s why it will be mandatory to file electronically.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 11:14:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: AppyPappy
But.. 'Preexisting condition' is the driver here. I will continue to verify if this is a hoax or not.

FReepers take it under advisement that once you log in and fill out information, even if you elect to NOT have health insurance, they still have your info. in a database and know you're not insured if you fill out the forms.

4 posted on 10/02/2013 11:14:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: AppyPappy

Please know that there are so many intenal inconsistancies in Ocare, that summary assertions regarding max per family penalties, are likely to be WRONG!

You will see a wide variety of “official” responses, as folks attempt to register.


5 posted on 10/02/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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The fine for not having insurance doesn’t change because of your condition.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 11:16:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

bfl


7 posted on 10/02/2013 11:17:54 AM PDT by ransomnote
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Not only that, the premium is 13% of his income so he can skip insurance without a penalty.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 11:18:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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Doesn’t seem to be much of a penalty if you don’t use a Drivers License and you rent an apartment....


9 posted on 10/02/2013 11:19:06 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep. Remember the mandatory filing of a 1099 form for all purchases over $600? Coin dealers believed this was so that the government could see who owns precious metals such as gold! I believe this requirement has since been repealed by Congress.


10 posted on 10/02/2013 11:19:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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I thought that drivers licenses were issued and controlled by the State, not the IRS or fed gov. How can they threaten loss of a drivers license if that is the case?


11 posted on 10/02/2013 11:22:27 AM PDT by PuzzledInTX (Proud to say that Ted Cruz is my Senator!)
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To: AppyPappy
Yeah I think it is a hoax.

Especially the part about suspending a driver's license and putting a tax lien on the home.

The Obamacare bill explicitly prohibits the IRS from any prosecution for non-payment, and from assessing any levy on property:

What would happen if people just refused to buy health insurance even if a law ordered them to?

12 posted on 10/02/2013 11:22:57 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Sacajaweau

BTTT !

___________________

If “OBAMACARE SUBSIDY HEALTH INSURANCE TAX,” aka OSHIT, is so popular, then why isn’t Mr. Michelle Obama enrolled?

This is enrollment day number TWO, Barry: tick-tock - - -


13 posted on 10/02/2013 11:24:44 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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So you believe the post solely based on your ignorance of what the plan does.

Interesting.

14 posted on 10/02/2013 11:25:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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This info is from:
https://www.healthcare.gov/what-if-someone-doesnt-have-health-coverage-in-2014/

The fee in 2014 is 1% of your yearly income or $95 per person for the year, whichever is higher.
In 2014 the fee for uninsured children is $47.50 per child. The most a family would have to pay in 2014 is $285.

So it’s either a fake posting or the “navigator” was completely wrong.


15 posted on 10/02/2013 11:26:32 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: justlurking
Could be a government-sponsored disinformation campaign aimed at making conservatives such as myself look like fools for criticizing 0bamacare. Saul Alinsky 101.

It's an elaborately stated hoax, at that.

16 posted on 10/02/2013 11:26:59 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I have health insurance through my employer. Harvard Pilgrim has no idea what my salary is. So every employee enrolled pays the same premium for the same coverage. This INCOME based premium method is Wealth Redistribution.


17 posted on 10/02/2013 11:27:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AppyPappy
I posted it for discussion, with the possibility that 'preexisting conditions' trigger a different result than is advertised.

Thanks for the chart but no thank you to the insult.

18 posted on 10/02/2013 11:29:50 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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I thought infowars stuff wasn’t allowed here.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 11:31:49 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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Yes, that's the REASON for 0bamacare. To redistribute wealth. If it pisses off the majority to please the minority, the Marxocrats are all for it. This explains the gay push in our military, too. It's Jimmy Carter on steroids.

Majority rules? No.

20 posted on 10/02/2013 11:32:47 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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