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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 37 SEPTEMBER 13, 2013
Free Republic | September 13, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/13/2013 1:04:36 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
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To: Nepeta

Wife loves zinnias because they grow so easily. She plants a half dozen different packets to have a constant supply of cut flowers for her desk, our dining table and to give away to others in her office. They all think she is super gardener or something. If you have plenty of sun, they grow like weeds. She has never did soil test on zennia beds, so no help there. They do survive and thrive in hot southern style sun and bloom from spring till death in the late fall.


81 posted on 09/14/2013 6:11:17 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: bgill

Thank you for sharing that information. I’m going to get my seeds going. When they’ve grown up, I’ll snip and dry them
for the water. Great.


82 posted on 09/14/2013 6:28:42 AM PDT by tillacum
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To: sockmonkey; greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing

“Have you seen those motion dietector barking dogs at Walgreen’s..”

No, I haven’t. I’ll look those up. My Walgreen’s is just one street from me.

I moved the cage onto the deck where I think squirrel gets on it. To get to plants now, he has to go past the cage.


83 posted on 09/14/2013 7:11:23 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: greeneyes

Pulled the row cover off the planter and that one walking onion is the only one up. Covered it with a piece of net and used ground spikes to hold it in place.

Now the planter has nothing on the rest of it, so squirrel could dig them all up. Think I still have to do the net thing over that planter.


84 posted on 09/14/2013 7:15:23 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
You just need to take a shotgun, a six pack of beer, and a lawn chair and set up where you can keep an eye on things. ;)

/johnny

85 posted on 09/14/2013 7:21:05 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing

Zinnia plants: Looked at those two pots this morning, and there are four of them in each of the two pots. There are many seeds left in the envelope.

I planted so many little plants Friday, I don’t remember how many of what I planted. I didn’t put plant ID markers in the pots but I did have them ready to stick in the pots. I’ll stick them in one long planter that has several types of plants in there. Not sure what one is, but through process of elimination, I’ll know what that is and mark it.


86 posted on 09/14/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Ellendra

“Umm, the potato fruits may be poisonous, but you aren’t eating the fruits. Potato seeds can be cleaned and grown in much the same way as tomato seeds. This is where new potato varieties come from.”

I’ll let potato companies work with those poisonous seed pods and develop new potato varieties, and follow the professionals that say don’t use them. I wouldn’t eat the seed fruits but my Yorkie might. Now if the squirrels would eat them and die, that would be good.


87 posted on 09/14/2013 7:29:50 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: rightly_dividing
They do survive and thrive in hot southern style sun and bloom from spring till death in the late fall.

I am in 6b in Ohio. None of my direct-seeded in day-long full sun tall zinnias produced a flower this year. The "Persian Carpet" zinnias did okay, but they took a long time to produce any flowers, and they are smaller this year than previously. Deer munched on some of them, but some just did not grow well.
88 posted on 09/14/2013 7:53:33 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Marcella
Now if the squirrels would eat them and die, that would be good.

If the deer would get upset guts after feeding on the fruits and learn to avoid my yard, that would be wonderful.
89 posted on 09/14/2013 7:59:43 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Marcella
Mark the instant you plant. Write down in your garden notebook exactly when and where you planted it. Draw diagrams. It's the only way to keep track. My brother laughed at me and asked why the catz didn't have CAT labels. But when he started planting, he got a notebook...

/johnny

90 posted on 09/14/2013 8:33:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
I decided to open new ground today, and till in the shade where I intend to grow tobacco next year. The guy that borrowed the tiller left gas in it, instead of running it completely out as I told him to. Which meant disassembling the carburator and clearing out the varnish from the old gas... grrr.....

The tiller, by it's nature gets loaned out. My new rule is going to be buy and bring me a container of Sta-bil(tm) before you take the tiller. At least with Sta-bil, if they leave gas in it, it won't turn to varnish.

/johnny

91 posted on 09/14/2013 8:37:35 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JDoutrider

“We really cut back on what we planted in quantity, and what we reaped is outstanding, maybe due to the amount of care each crop got, who knows?”

I think you’re right - it is because you had a smaller area and could concentrate on that more. A huge area makes for less control over what is happening with those plants.


92 posted on 09/14/2013 9:12:47 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Ellendra

Since you mention Spaghetti sauce.......I find that a lot of my (picked) tomatoes are not “perfect” and are not perfectly free of any blemish. In fact many have little blemishes which of course grow in size the longer they sit out on the table. If put in the fridge the advance of the blemishing stops. I don’t have room in there for them all though.

My question is if the “yuck spots” can be cut out and the rest of the tomato be used for sauce that is not destined to be canned. Like in a Spaghetti sauce. I am positive that my Grandma never threw away all the tomatoes that had imperfections, yet the canning books all say to only use perfect tomatoes.

I used the only perfect tomatoes I had to make my unusually delicious Ketchup, because I do can that. Although this year I only had enough ripe PERFECT tomatoes to make a single pint (late start planting) it is very thick and used 15-16 tomatoes to make. One pint. That’s it.

My husband asked if I didn’t get mad or frustrated from all the work to produce such a small amount, but I don’t let it bother me. If I know going in that I will have so little (and I absolutely knew before I started), then I weigh the work against the reward, and I love this Ketchup!

Anyway, is it “safe” to use the tomatoes that have spots if the spots are completely cut away?


93 posted on 09/14/2013 9:22:53 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: JRandomFreeper
Thanks for the picture of you at school with the grandkids - they look like they are having a good time.

I just looked at my name tags for the plants and the one I didn't know has to be cucumber as I know what the rest look like. I wrote on the paper cups what they were when they were under the grow lamp.

I'll be planting many more in the early spring so will have to mark them plus do the notebook thing.

There was a Property owner's meeting this morning at my townhouses, and I found out how much water that swimming pool holds (thinking of water source if the SHTF). I thought it was about 17 to 19 thousand gallons, but it is 250,000 gallons of water - not many pools are that large when there is only 61 townhomes. If power is out, the chemicals will dissipate as no more would be added and my Berkey will clean that water anyway.

In an emergency, like a hurricane, a number of families come get their elderly mother so not many people will be left here. This is not an old folks retirement place, anyone can buy one of these townhomes but older people bought here because it's safe and close to what they need. We have some mid age couples here as well but the only kids that show up are grandchildren for a visit.

250,000 gallons of water I can clean - that is a good thing.

94 posted on 09/14/2013 9:42:32 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella
Yes it is. And as much rain as you get where you are, that will help too.

Seedling identifiers help if you get things mixed up. Lots of places on the web to look up what something is supposed to look like.

The area that I'm tilling has much less organic material in it than the rest of the yard, and is almost pure sand. In fact, it looks like Dad brought in a load of sand at some point to fill a low spot. Grrr.

I'll be adding some organic material from the compost pile, lots of wood chips, since I get them for free, and loading the soil up with broken pottery and gypsum from old wallboard.

/johnny

95 posted on 09/14/2013 9:51:22 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: KosmicKitty

Gorgeous!


96 posted on 09/14/2013 10:43:51 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: Ellendra

We had horn worms. Mr. Sg spotted the first one (I wouldn’t have known a horn worm if I tripped over one). Became obsessive-compulsive about destroying them—got six or seven on the first day, following the path-of-destruction technique, a couple more over the next week, then the problem was over. What kicked my butt this year was squash vine borers (I think).


97 posted on 09/14/2013 10:53:59 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: JRandomFreeper; Marcella

Maybe the beer and the shotgun aren’t such a good combination. How about a pellet gun and espresso?


98 posted on 09/14/2013 10:57:35 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: Silentgypsy
Vine borers killed my two regular squash, then I found
Tromboncino Squash that those moths/borers don't like, and I planted one in a container and it's on my deck and three feet tall and in perfect health. If it continues this way, it should produce. They are long squash and can be eaten in the light green and darker green shade from spring through summer and if some are left on the vine, they turn a tan color and become winter squash like the Butternut squash. If the squash are on the ground, they curl up. If suspended by a trellis, they are straight. My container has a trellis built into it so they will be straight (if it produces).

This means one can eat these squash almost all year long. I will never try to grow regular squash again.

99 posted on 09/14/2013 11:19:12 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Nepeta
“None of my direct-seeded in day-long full sun tall zinnias produced a flower this year.”

I can't plant direct seed of anything as the birds and squirrels get them so every seed is started in the house under a grow lamp. The Zinnia seed sprouted really well under the grow lamp. They are in pots on the deck as of last Friday. This is an experiment to see if my long growing season will allow these baby plants to grow and produce flowers before cold weather gets here.

100 posted on 09/14/2013 11:24:30 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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