Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]
Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasnt that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, werent they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which Ill talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This this birther stuff is way, way out of contr Now Ted Cruz I swear I almost hit this guy Ted Cruz is not a citizen! No, hes born to an American mother, no hes born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, theyre not Americans. Theyre not natural-born Americans. I just thought youd wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever None! But its, its just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders I dont know the sexual preferences, that wasnt a requirement to say hello young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tysons Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground .
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, its great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. Shes not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny cause she said He is so calm, Steve. He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didnt raise his voice, or get upset
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: or anything!
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: and I laughed so hard. I said How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell? [laughs] I just listen to Mark. And she knows youre my hero, I go around quotin ya, and tellin everybody to listen to ya, and
Mark Levin: Well, thats great.
Steve: she just to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her its passion, you know, and um what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what Id written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didnt have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times hes got the left wingers on there, and its just, kind, its almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and and it didnt get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it its just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um weve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And hes got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, Im so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I dont know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says You were wrong about this, you were wrong about, and honestly I, I, I didnt have time to read it, and Ill go back and check it, if Im wrong about it Ill fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when youre going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so Im going to check it out, I just havent had time. And then he goes, he says uh And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. Hes not a natural-born Citizen. And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but hes born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesnt that make him a natural-born Ci No, but he was in Canada when he was born! Okay, but she wasnt Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isnt what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mothers an American citizen, so hes an American citizen! Thats not a constitutional issue, thats an interpretive issue or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isnt terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and theres a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I I assume theyre going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like em or not for president Im just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now theyre the birthers. But some of its coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and theres no end to it, on a matter like this, and theres nothing I can say or point to thats going to change their mind. But in my view theres no doubt about it that hes eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So thats my opinion! You may not like it But what particularly bothered me about this guy he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know listening, watching and so forth. Im a big boy; Ive seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. Hes the only one oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I dont know what he was screamin about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasnt anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi oh there is now? The the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or just the Long Island. But well put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
Hamilton’s “born a citizen” requirement was not presented to the Convention.
This post discusses it in detail
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3057103/posts?page=279#279
Inconsequential what disagreements you might find when the laws of the day in 1790 and 1795 declare children born overseas to US citizens to be both “natural born” and citizens by right of birth and citizens by descent.
In other words, being a BORN citizen and being a natural born citizen were indistinguishable in those laws. They show a broad usage of the term “natural born citizen” instead of a narrow one.
Those were the ACTUAL laws written by those also participant to those discussions and signed by George Washington who also PRESIDED OVER the Constitutional Convention, meaning he would have known a thing or two himself but STILL chose to sign those laws.
And current law is a slam dunk for Cruz’s eligibility. So, whether the history of actual US law or the law currently in effect, Cruz is eligible.
So, quit bellyachin’ and put this discussion behind us and get on board the anti-ObamaCare train.
Cruz hasn’t even declared for the presidency. It’s a non-issue for about 3 years.
bttt
No mobs allowed! Mobs can't decide, street gangs can't decide and crooked judges can't decide.
Only the electors can decide. (It's all in Article II, Section 1 of our Constitution. )
Ballot access is controlled by state law.
“No mobs allowed!” does not square with your prior statement that your are “convinced that the American people will conclude that anyone born a citizen of the United States is a natural born citizen.” It is not for the mob to decide.
Ted Cruz’s mother was fully American. Born in America of American parents and meeting all legal qualifications under law to produce an American citizen baby when Ted was born. That is why he did not need to be naturalized.
What you are recounting about his father is not at issue, because of the facts - about the woman who gave birth to him, and the controlling law.
Great, we may need the air in your head someday.
Change your handle to “sometime thinker.”
Sometime, I’m sure that you will think.
The date of Cruz’s father’s naturalization has absolutely no impact on the law. He falls under 301(a)(7) which recognizes the at birth citizenship of a baby born overseas to parents, one of whom is a US citizen.
Good luck with that.
And, give my regards to Jeb. ;-)
Discussing his eligibility is not an attack on Cruz.
And, I choose to go to the gym now.
Keep working on your pitch for the voters and their electors. It's an important issue. ;-)
Clever, Lake, but incorrect in your thinking.
“If Cruz runs, it will be up to you to challenge him in court, because if you don’t and he wins he will be President. That you or any other conservative would do that is categorically insane. That you would prefer Christie or Hillary over this niggling Pharisaical issue is once again, categorically insane.”
I like Ted Cruz. He’s my senator. I voted for him and will vote for him again if he ends up running for a second term. Or for Governor.
I would love for Cruz to be a natural born Citizen and make it so I don’t have to make the decision between fulfilling my oath to Obey the Constitution as I understand it, or throwing my oath out and voting for someone just to keep a democrat out of the White House. I am so sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
You, along with some of your friends, like Jeff, Nero, Taufu, JRandom, etc., seem to think that we who don’t believe Cruz or Obama are natural born Citizens, are out to get Ted and destroy the country; to destroy any chance the Republicans have of retaking the White House. For some childish reason that most of us adults gave up in grade school (or at least jr. high), you feel the need to call us names, belittle us and try to marginalize us because we believe there’s a higher definition of natural born Citizen than just someone born in America or born somewhere in the world of one American and that there’s a legal issue here that needs to be resolved; that your citations are interpreted more correctly than “our” citations. They’re all just opinions at this point and one is as valid as another.
I don’t understand why any American would want to take a lax interpretation of a term (that is “not defined in the Constitution” - sheesh) that restricts who can be President when your country is headed down the tubes faster than Christie heading for a buffet.
I agree with you that preferring “Christie or Hillary” as President IS categorically insane. But, believing that Ted’s a shoe-in just because he runs, that if we continue to discuss his eligibility we’ll elect Hillary, that Ted’s the ONLY guy who can save the Country, that everything he says is what he would do, is also categorically insane. What if we put all our eggs in the Cruz basket, scrap someone who may show up that is almost as good or may be better (none currently on the horizon), and Cruz wins then gets thrown out because the injustices decide to STOP evading the issue?
“...niggling Pharisaical issue...”
I just don’t know how to respond to that term. At what point did we (conservatives) decide that a qualification for President is a “niggling Pharisaical issue”? That we can stop obeying the Constitution when it’s politically expedient? If it’s our guy, it’s okay to parse the Constitution, but if it’s the other guy it’s not? If we can possibly interpret a term two ways, if it’s our guy we take the broadest interpretation, but if it’s the other guy we take the narrow view? That’s liberalthink. How long before you decide that we’ve had enough violence and that the 2nd amendment is now a “niggling Pharisaical issue”? I just don’t get this mindset at ALL.
Let us bring this eligibility subject up and discuss it loud and long until it gets addressed by the appropriate people (whomever they may be) BEFORE the election. If anyone anywhere in the world however remotely connected to an American is determined to be a natural born Citizen, then so be it. We live with the consequences.
If Ted is the right man for the job, he’ll want this straightened, too. Otherwise, knowing there’s an issue and not not trying to get it resolved, he’s just another politician doing and saying anything for power. But he says it for us, so it’s okay. I’m hoping he’s setting a trap for Obama and those who lied to get him into power. We’ll see. I have the hope, I’m waiting for the change.
In the meantime, (and this is more for your friends than you Lake, although you seem to like the term “birther”) can we at least stop calling each other names and stop using pejoratives to talk about and to one another? Or, is that too much to ask?
Quit being a naïve pawn of the GOP-e. Yes it is. He hasn't even declared.
Amen, Brother.
The fact that I am a naturalized American citzen has no bearing on Ted Cruz but Sirius Lee saw fit to mention it...
The parent connected to Ted Cruz is his father who was not an American citizen when Ted was born in Canada but was naturalized years later...
I dont know why Sirius Lee mentioned my status but he did...
maybe you 2 can have a catfight about it...
However although I was not an American citizen when my son was born in the US, his father was..
so my son was born in the US of 1 American citzen parent...
so he is more eligible than Ted Cruz...
is that what you meant, Sirius Lee ???
You can't amend the Constitution with an act of congress. That requires ratification by two thirds of the states.
Even the language of the Nationality act of 1790, later repealed by the act of 1795, would not have made Ted Cruz eligible for the presidency.
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