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Keep that Bible out of my room
The Times of Israel ^ | 5/21/2013 | KATE BRUMBACK and RUSS BYNUM

Posted on 05/21/2013 5:08:31 PM PDT by Former Fetus

An atheist, Buckner believes that no religious literature should be provided in government-owned lodging, and he presented that concern to management at the Amicalola Falls State Park.

Officials told Buckner they would remove the Bibles from all state park resorts while the state attorney general looked into the matter. Not long afterward, however, the AG issued a ruling saying the state was on firm legal ground because it hadn’t paid for the books. On Wednesday, Gov. Nathan Deal ordered the Bibles returned.

Deal argued that if the state didn’t pay for them, it can’t be seen as endorsing them. He also noted that any religious group can donate literature. But his action sparked a string of comments on social media and captured the attention of local news television stations. It also prompted some to question why this hasn’t been more of an issue in the US before.

Buckner is pondering his next move. One idea he is considering is to test the state’s offer to accept literature from other religions in state-owned lodging. He also said he would be willing to participate if an organization with similar beliefs decides to launch a lawsuit over the issue.

‘When you go into a state park cabin and the only piece of religious literature there is a Protestant Bible, that suggests the government’s endorsed that particular perspective’

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antichristian; antitheism; atheism; atheistsupremacist; bible; christianity; religion; trollalert
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To: Former Fetus

atheists are an enigma, in that they have to acknowledge the existence of God in order to deny Him.

The penultimate Catch 22


21 posted on 05/21/2013 5:36:45 PM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: whattajoke

what’s he right about? they’re donated books. govt spends nothing. nobody’s compelled to read it.

he’s not right about anything. first he tries to get them gone. they come back. insread of trying to gt them gone, now he wants more religious books sthere? if one book offends him, his solution is more than one book to offend him more?!?

he really isn’t offended about religious books being there, then. just one book in particular. and he doesn’t get to determine which religions should or shouldn’t be anywhere based on his own personal likes or dislikes. let him open up a hotel and decide what all donated religious books, if any, he wants in his hotel rooms.


22 posted on 05/21/2013 5:37:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: whattajoke

Only once have I ever seen a Book of Mormon in a hotel room — I don’t think I’ve ever not seen a Bible.


23 posted on 05/21/2013 5:40:19 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: AndyTheBear
What this Atheist is asking for is to have religious books banned from consideration because he wants the state to favor non-religion over religion.

No need to capitalize "atheist." And you offer a false dichotomy. Atheists would prefer the government allow all religions equally and simply not favor any of them. That is the correct choice which you left out.
24 posted on 05/21/2013 5:40:45 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: QualityMan
atheists are an enigma, in that they have to acknowledge the existence of God in order to deny Him.

Say huh? So... by this "logic," you acknowledge the existence of Thor, Ra, Allah, Krishna, Odin, Zeus, Frigg, Baal and about 1000 others? For that is exactly what you just said. Good luck keeping them all straight. And watch out for that trickster Loki.
25 posted on 05/21/2013 5:43:48 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Former Fetus

Somehow the words “establishment of religion” seem to be grossly misunderstood.


26 posted on 05/21/2013 5:44:08 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Former Fetus
Freedom FROM religion ...

is not a right recognized in the Constitution.

27 posted on 05/21/2013 5:45:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Former Fetus

Another atheist jerkwad tyrant. Some hotels have Book of Mormon, Koran, Baghavad Gita, etc...but rather demand they be removed I just choose not to read them. Sometimes I feel sorry for sad sack agressive atheists who will kick themselves right out of eternity in heaven. Worst decision evahhhhhhhhhh.


28 posted on 05/21/2013 5:46:29 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh I’m not saying he’s prick, but when using logic failed, he went to the well and did what he thought he had to do: Show the hypocrisy of the situation. Do I want 50 stupid books of myths clogging up my hotel room? Of course not.

But if a government hotel at a national park “endorses” one religion and shuts out others, that’ll lose in court every time.

It’s like when creationists try to push their nonsense in public schools. Fine, “now teach all 4000 creation myths and give “equal time.” Those who push the christian myth never seem to like that idea and have a difficult time explaining why.


29 posted on 05/21/2013 5:47:21 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I meant “Im not saying he’s NOT a prick.’


30 posted on 05/21/2013 5:49:08 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke; admin
It's "atheist" and calling them "Godless" is a bit of redundant, don't you think? By the way, billions of humans would call you "Godless" too, simply because you didn't grow up where they grew up to accept a different Bronze Age myth.

This is a pro-Christian site.
31 posted on 05/21/2013 5:52:56 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Former Fetus

“The atheists fear of God is proof of His existence. Most rational adults are not afraid of Santa Claus or Mickey Mouse, but atheists react to the very name of God as if they were being set on fire!”

Worth repeating.


32 posted on 05/21/2013 5:53:54 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: whattajoke

Darwin’s Evolution is a theory/myth too. Where’s the scientific proof via missing link connections to humanoids?


33 posted on 05/21/2013 5:53:57 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: scrabblehack

Really? I see the book of mormon all the time. And not just in mormonville either.


34 posted on 05/21/2013 5:54:48 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke
By the way, billions of humans would call you "Godless" too, simply because you didn't grow up where they grew up to accept a different Bronze Age myth.

You may not admit to any fear of God, but you appear to have hostility toward Christianity, or religion in general, which is pretty much the defining quality of self-proclaimed atheists, in my experience. The existence of a book in a drawer in a hotel room doesn't threaten anyone who doesn't believe it, and it doesn't force anyone to read it. A true non-believer would simply ignore it, or smile at the quaintness, instead what we get is "F***ing religious nuts, pushing their Bronze Age invisible man in the sky on everyone!" The only reason for even the slightest hostility is fear.

I think the true fear of any atheist is that he might be wrong. He can set this fear aside if he can avoid any exposure to religion, but then he goes into a hotel room and sees a Bible and has a fit, because there is yet another reminder that some people believe in God, and it reignites that latent fear that there actually is a God, and that He might look upon atheism unfavorably.

What the subject of this article is engaging in is what I have seen properly called "evangelical atheism", which is to say that he is trying to prevent as many people as he can from believing in God, or, possibly, even get some believers to stop. There is no logical reason for that, unless he has a fear of that religion. Otherwise, why would he care that people are Christians?
35 posted on 05/21/2013 5:55:21 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: PieterCasparzen
This is a pro-Christian site.

I know. It's also a pro-American site. I know Jim sees the two as one and the same. I don't. Now what?
36 posted on 05/21/2013 5:56:07 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke

yes but putting out a book that someone donates isn’t endorsement. they aren’t excluding any other religions doing it. fact is no other religions do it, it’s not the government’s fault they won’t donate books. asking them to donate would be asking to promote their religions. christians aren’t asked, they ask to donate.

all religions have the same opportunity to donate. the fact only one takes advantage is not the government endorsing them.


37 posted on 05/21/2013 5:56:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: whattajoke
Atheists would prefer the government allow all religions equally and simply not favor any of them.

Nonsense.

They want to forcibly remove part of the first amendment.

Below you will find the first amendment as rewritten by atheists.

Congress shall make no many law (s) respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting and outlawing the free exercise thereof;especially them Christians or and abridging the freedom of speech, or and of the press; or and the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is no other way to interpret their continual assault on any public religious free expression.

If they simply wanted the government allow all religions equally they wouldn't throw a hissy fit every time they see someone practicing their religion.

38 posted on 05/21/2013 5:56:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: whattajoke

yeah i know you meant that :-)


39 posted on 05/21/2013 5:56:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Former Fetus

I’ve always been mystified by those Gideon Bibles you find in motel rooms everywhere. The Gideons must have some serious mega-bucks when they can afford to print enough bibles to plant in practically every motel room in America. And they replace them when people take them home, as many people do. Who are the Gideons, anyway? (Excuse me if I sound dumb about this, but I have no clue.)


40 posted on 05/21/2013 5:59:13 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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