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Where did we come from? Prehistoric fossils may rewrite human evolution (LOL!)
The Verge ^ | April 11, 2013 | Amar Toor

Posted on 04/14/2013 9:54:40 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst

A collection of prehuman skeletons has sparked intrigue and debate in the scientific community, eliciting calls to redraw — or at least reconsider — mankind's evolutionary map.

On Friday, an international team of researchers will publish their latest findings on Australopithecus sediba — a uniquely puzzling prehuman species that lived nearly 2 million years ago. Led by Lee Berger, a paleoanthropologist at the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa, the research reveals new insights about the way Au. sediba walked, chewed, and moved, lending support to Berger's claim that the species is a direct human ancestor.

Experts have long identified Homo habilis as the most likely ancestor to Homo erectus — the precursor to modern man — but Berger’s research points to an alternate lineage. Au. sediba predated Homo habilis by nearly 100,000 years, according to some estimates, and its "mosaic" blend of ape and human qualities suggests a different evolution from human ancestors (known as hominins) to our own Homo genus.

(Excerpt) Read more at theverge.com ...


TOPICS: Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: evolution; god; science
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To: onedoug

I didn’t say that religion and science were mutually exclusive, I said they were different.


21 posted on 04/14/2013 11:44:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
I'm not sure I agree with how you are phrasing that, but the core statement seems clear enough, and is one I will not take issue with. Science wants to discuss one thing, and religion is largely focused on something different.
22 posted on 04/14/2013 11:54:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, exactly. That’s why the OP’s remarks are invalid: he’s suggesting that science fails because it doesn’t operate like religion. I’m saying they are two different things.


23 posted on 04/14/2013 12:00:44 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: savagesusie

Just read Dr. Berlinksi’s book: “The Devil’s Delusion: Atheism and Scientific Pretensions”. The witty mathematician tears apart the “thinking” of the evolutionary Marxists who are irrational.


I love that book.

It’s not so much an attack on evolution as it is an attack on how secular scientists are changing the rules of science to fit their secularism.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 12:11:23 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Not another rewrite!!!?? The ink isn’t dry on the last rewrite of a rewrite of a.......


25 posted on 04/14/2013 12:29:21 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
A collection of prehuman skeletons

Wait, are you saying that you got the Skeletons of Michael Moore, Helen Thomas, Robert Byrd and other LIBERALS??

How did you remove the skeletons from the live people??

26 posted on 04/14/2013 12:35:20 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Rand Paul/Ben Carson should be the 2016 Ticket!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Science and the scientific method operate under very strict rules. This is, of course a necessary construct in order to advance the understanding of virtually everything.

The scientific method is bound to “materialism, reductionism etc”, it is bound to what can be observed, tested and repeated”. The interpretations of those discoveries have implications and should fit within the construct of the whole of a particular theory. When the interpretations upset the whole or current narrative of the theory, something needs to give.

Creationists point out the inconsistencies and repeated re-interpretations as a failure of the theory. And evolutionists will tell you that this is how science works.

Objectively, there’s something wrong.

New evidence should support the theory, not make it more complicated. So much more complicated that they are willing to invoke the “super-natural” or “meta-physics” in order to resolve or save the theory.


27 posted on 04/14/2013 12:42:51 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
amen, sister
28 posted on 04/14/2013 12:43:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I bet that existed back then, liberal cavemen who sat around all day and refused to hunt then complained: “Gorg have more deer meat than me” and the tribal elder “ Bargack Obomo” who took the deer meat from Gorg and redistributed it.

LOL

29 posted on 04/14/2013 1:05:08 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Rand Paul/Ben Carson should be the 2016 Ticket!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Some very good friends of mine were driving across a CO mountain pass in winter that has a very dangerous stretch with lots of avalanches. Usually lose at least one car a year, and nobody has ever survived being swept off the road into the canyon.

They stopped and prayed before driving across the stretch. An avalanche hit and swept them off the road. They survived and eventually climbed out.

They believed their survival was a miracle provided by God in response to their prayers.

I pointed out that if they hadn’t stopped to pray, they would have been past the dangerous stretch before the avalanche hit.

My comment was not appreciated.


30 posted on 04/14/2013 1:18:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

LOL. That reminds me of the story about the construction worker who falls several stories from a scaffold. He breaks most of the bones in his body, but miraculously lives. He wakes up in traction in the hospitial, and the doctor tells him, “You’re a lucky man”.

He says, “I don’t feel lucky”.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 2:03:25 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Zeneta

Basically, the Leftists are lying-—their premises are all “assumptions” but they treat it as “truth” which it is not-—just a “theory”.

At. Least Christians admit when they use “faith”.

He does tear apart a lot of the “myth” of evolution.


32 posted on 04/14/2013 3:28:07 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Berlinski, is not to be played with.

“How many physiological changes are necessary to move a “cow like” animal to a whale ?”

What’s the number?

50, maybe 100,000 changes ?

Let’s weigh that against randomness and generational populations.

The math does not work.


33 posted on 04/14/2013 4:05:19 PM PDT by Zeneta (No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Well if you are a christian you know where you came from.


34 posted on 04/14/2013 4:55:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I read an interesting story once.

Some whalers went ashore and stayed with a group of Inuit (Eskimos) up North way back in the 1860s.

One day, Sarquaq, who was the best hunter and nominal village leader, killed a walrus.

As he began handing out portions to his neighbors, the whalers commented, using an interpreter, that Sarquaq was a very kind and generous man.

When it was translated, he laughed heartily and said, “You do not understand. By whips, one makes dogs, and by GIFTS, one makes slaves.”

Sarquaq saw his distribution of meat as a means to keep himself in a position of power and influence, not as charity.

Some things don’t change.


35 posted on 04/14/2013 4:56:06 PM PDT by darth
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Omg! Science is based upon evidence and can change in light of new evidence! Obviously an inferior system to never changing what you think no matter how much evidence accumulates!


36 posted on 04/14/2013 4:59:30 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Sherman Logan
I pointed out that if they hadn’t stopped to pray, they would have been past the dangerous stretch before the avalanche hit.

LOL! Exactly!

37 posted on 04/14/2013 5:09:39 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: darth
Sarquaq saw his distribution of meat as a means to keep himself in a position of power and influence, not as charity.

Some things don’t change.

Well, except that the meat belonged to Sarquaq. Today's power and influence comes from redistributing what is OURS!

38 posted on 04/14/2013 6:58:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Good observation.


39 posted on 04/15/2013 7:30:12 AM PDT by darth
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Their age dating math leaves a lot to be explained as well.

101 Evidences for a Young Age of the Earth...And the Universe
http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth


40 posted on 04/25/2013 5:48:39 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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