Posted on 01/03/2013 4:42:02 PM PST by Kartographer
Today while reading a thread in a survival forum someone explained his view on how different a collapse in USA would be compared to the one that took place in Argentina in 2001. He said that while the collapse in Argentina was like changing a tire on a Ford Falcon, what will happen in US will be like changing them all on a 18-wheeler. Changing a tire on a Falcon is a light way of putting it. Our economy collapsed, our currency lost 70% of its value overnight and the president resigned while anarchy spread all over the country. Over a decade later the place is still a mess, it simply never got back on its feet. Just last week, looting spread across 40 major cities in Argentina. My family and friends over there spend three days, including Christmas, without power or water, while roasted at 120F. We didn’t change the tire on a Ford Falcon. The Falcon went over the cliff and blew up. You could say there’s only a wreckage left of what was once a nice, shiny Ford Falcon.
Unfortunately for you guys in USA its more similar than any of us could have expected. Seems that right after getting an Obama double tap, you’ll get hit with Hillary Clinton in 2016. The shit storm your’re about to go through will test everyone’s determination and true preparedness levels. Its now and in these coming years that people will get to see for themselves what works and what doesn’t. Many such accounts have already been posted here the last couple years.
(Excerpt) Read more at ferfal.blogspot.com ...
driftdiver, you are up now. I don’t know much beyond what I saw in some video my daughter insisted I look at. I’ll ask her what it was when she gets here. It was more of a look what can be done to inspire people than a how to.
Marcella, it’s not necessarily just an outdoor proposition. When I first started to research growing stuff indoors, I came up with all sorts of unique ways of secretly growing stuff indoors with hydroponics. Including hidden closets, fake speakers and consoles. LOL
It wasn’t the kind of crop or growing medium that I was looking for so I didn’t do much reading. But hey it might make more sense when SHTF.
A garden outdoors can be seen and coveted. An indoor hydroponic with grow lights on batteries rechargeable by solar methods, and in a hidden closet could have real possibilities. Maybe I was too quick to discard this method. LOL Gonna put it back on my list for later research.
I’m reading now on this website from this company that makes stuff for vertical hydro. plants: http://vertigro.com/
The only space I would have inside is a spare bedroom and if my son and liberal sister-in-law and husband came, the three bedrooms would be used.
No one can see in my garden. This is a row of townhouses and there is a very high solid thick brick wall between our gardens. It takes a ladder to get high enough to look over the brick walls. There are older people here and I think in an emergency situation, the families of these people would come get them. That is what happens when a hurricane comes through - the families get their parents out of here.
This place is gated and no one gets in. It’s also so hidden no one can find the street that goes to this place unless they have been here before and even then, it’s hard to find. I have to watch or I will pass the street myself.
Point is, my small garden is hidden from eyes. I have a rather large deck out there and think that’s where this project would be. Less bugs should happen too if it’s not on the ground.
Your deck sounds like an ideal space for some plants to me. You could even do a little sq foot gardening which also takes up less space than regular gardening. Mels got a book that my daughter loaned me when I first got started with my raised beds.
http://www.squarefootgardening.org/whatissfg#!__whatissfg/vstc74=newsnphotos
Interesting concept. I am thinking that one of those plastic shelves from walmart that costs about 15.00 bucks about three or four shelves holding about 3 or 4 10 inch pots works better for me.
A few bags of potting soil, or mel’s mix and I’m growing lots of edibles in front of my patio door. See those little pots arranged like that look cute, but I’m not seeing much production in the bottom ones, which would have to be some sort of vining plants I would think.
I think we need to search on for more on hydroponics.
Thanks again for the information. - My 87 yr. old aunt lives in Texas; and her electricity goes off after a storm. Fortunately, she’s not prone to body thermostat problems; so does fairly well in the heat. I sent her a manual fan spray bottle from Walmart last time she had one of those. - She’s tough as nails; every time I read a headline about some intruder being shot in Texas, I look to see if it was her that did the shooting. . and that’s the truth.
Oh, yes. I also find that if I bathe off the area under my arms with a cool cloth, that really helps, too. That part of the body seems to hold in the heat a lot. - Some stores and restaurants we go into sometimes are hot as heckfire in the winter. The employees come in during the morning hours when it’s cold, jerk that thermostat up to 90 degrees, get accustomed to it so it feels normal to them; but when the outside temp increases up in the day to 75 or 80, I can’t stand it in those places. I get visual wonkies that I can’t explain adequately to anyone when that stuff hits me. (looks like this: ^^^^^^^^^^^^#######^^^^^^^^^##### sort of)
Twinkie
Veddy interestink. bmfl
The two ground pots are larger pots for larger veggies.
I'll look around that site more.
Yep thats exactly the same stuff. Need 4 sets or 8 columns to provide the growing space I mentioned but you could easily start with just that.
I use a what is called a soiless mix for my indoor plants. It’s just peat moss, compost and vermiculite, about equal proportions. Then each year just refurbish with my own compost from kitchen scraps and leaves and shredded papers.
It works for where we are and what we have to deal with. Hydroponics though may be good for you. The dvd I was thinking of is called Food Inc. I think. I watched it on netflix.
The brief part on hydroponics and the fish tank which provides nutrients for the plants etc was interesting to see.
Let me know what you find out. I have to go pressure cook some chicken for storage.
One reason he laughed is because he won a science fair when he was in high school and it was growing beans by hydroponics. As a result, he got to present that in the big show in Houston.
Having fresh veggies is worth a lot.
Sounds like your niece got an A in her college history course.
Liberal professors have done much damage.
Sounds like your niece got an A in her college history course.
Liberal professors have done much damage.
“How do you get cornmeal to last for long-term storage?”
I bought it from Walton Feed. It is professionally hermetically sealed. Also got the flour from them sealed the same way.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.