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Gun Show Eyewitness Report
self | 12/26/2012 | crusher

Posted on 12/28/2012 6:38:55 PM PST by crusher

Today is my "Going Galt" day as I retired in preparation of moving to the retreat in the mountains. To wash the taste of work and DC out of my mouth and to bask in the atmosphere of good vibes I decided to go to the 1000-table gun show at the Dulles Expo center about 15 miles from DC.

As I approached the neighborhood, traffic was so heavy I could hardly even get off the highway, "No biggie," sez I as it was Friday afternoon. As I approached the Expo Center I saw a different truth, that it was traffic to the gun show that caused the gridlock.

I have never before been to a big gun show where not only was there no parking to be had, but there was gridlock in the parking lot and I wound up parking a couple shopping centers away.

The came the entry lines. There were two lines snaking around the huge hall all the way around to the back, essentially four blocks long. There were hundreds, perhaps thousands of people in line and it took ONE HOUR to get inside. Once inside, there was virtually no moving around as the crowd was so huge there was almost no floor space available for walking.

ARs were flying out of there, and it seemed like the floor price level was in the $2600 range, with some tricked out versions going for close to $5k. Ammo was plentiful but price was up about %50 from the last time I bought any. And guys were wheeling out hand trucks of it.

The dealers were saying that today was nothing compared to what they expect tomorrow. One reloading supplier told me he expects to have virtually no inventory to pack up and haul home at the end of Sunday.

Yep, Barack Hussein Obamao is the nation's #1 gun salesman for the fifth year in a row.

Now, back to "Going Galt."


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To: umgud

There is a 1500 table show in Indianapolis about 4 times a year. Indy 1500.


41 posted on 12/28/2012 7:43:59 PM PST by MachIV
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To: Moonman62

The GOP would not know if it was literally on fire.


42 posted on 12/28/2012 7:54:31 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Moonman62

I’m now wholly convinced that the GOP couldn’t find their pompous asses with one, the other or both hands.


43 posted on 12/28/2012 7:55:35 PM PST by NVDave
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To: null and void

I received this in an email today. I haven’t fact checked the numbers but thought I would send it your way due to your comment.

Following the horrible crime in Connecticut, there is a lot of talk by oath breakers about curtailing freedom. Marxists calling themselves Democrats and liberals calling themselves Republicans have made it clear, “They” intend to disarm “Us”.

From the left side I hear cries for confiscation, and from the right I hear “Molon Labe”. To suggest that this could not lead to civil war is to ignore history. War is an ugly thing, so in the interest of peace I wish to help “Them” understand “Us” and vice-versa.

Cold Hard Numbers: “Us”

Estimates from various sources, from liberal to conservative , have the number of privately owned firearms in the United States in the vicinity of 300 million. Countless polls estimate these weapons are owned by around 47% of US households, or about 54 million. (47% of 114,761,359 households per US Census http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)

The 1775 population of the 13 colonies including slaves and Native Americans was around 2.4 million.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_colonies)

At the height of the revolutionary war in 1779, there were 35,000 Continental Soldiers and Marines, 44,500 militia and 5000 Continental Sailors fighting for freedom, for a total of 84,000 colonist men. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_war)

This gave us an active combatant ratio of 3.5% of the population. This ratio was smaller during the earlier stages of the war, and once this and the 12,000 late arriving French troops are taken into account, the overall generally accepted 3% figure is derived.

3% of our population today equals 9.35 million, and this is only part of the story. I could make a very strong case that due to the fact that we today have a large standing army, and in colonial days they did not, the percentage of active combatants in any future resistance to disarmament would double or more. There are currently around 10 million oath-bound military veterans in the US between the ages of 22 and 50, many of them combat vets(http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html)

I will leave this case for another time, because 3% is enough. Here are some quick numbers for comparison from the Federation of American Scientists.

3% US population 9.35 million

Chinese Military (active) 2.25 million

Russian Military (active) .96 million

US Military (active) 1.46 million

So, we are 9.35 million, but who are we ?

-We are overwhelmingly Christian.
(http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-americans-77-christian-06-muslim)

-We dominate the military and veteran ranks.

-We are competitive shooters, hunters, outdoorsmen, fishermen, ATV and dirt bike riders.

-We are fathers and husbands, sons and grandsons of the generations who won the world wars.

-We are law abiding citizens who have been sold into slavery with a national debt so big it would take a tax increase, per household, the size and duration of a mortgage to pay off.

-We work in law enforcement, City, State and Federal. “We” are deeply among “Them”.

-We are 9.35 million men with battle rifles, not armed because we are free, but free because we are armed.

Cold Hard Numbers: “Them”

During the disarmament trial runs at Waco and Ruby Ridge, it was the ATF and FBI that bravely lead the charge against vicious women and children. Any future enforcement of new federal disarmament laws would be carried out by oath breaking members of these two agencies. Let’s break it down.

BATF (2006) 4,559 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BATF)

FBI 36,074 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fbi)

This gives us a total of 40633. There could be hidden within other agencies additional groups of oath breakers who may be used for disarmament. Because I am working toward a ratio, and I used what I believe to be a 50% low estimate on the “Us” column, I will not add an estimate for additional feds on the “Them” side. Don’t forget that “We” are deeply among “Them”, and “They” live among “Us”.

9,350,000 / 40633 = 230.1

“We” have “Them” outnumbered by >230:1.

Now that both parties have a proper perspective on things let us continue the conversation with the levels of respect and confidence due.

What about the military ?

There are differing opinions about this, most having a valid basis. I will lump local and state law enforcement into this portion of the discussion. I believe that at a local level, you could see almost anything happen militarily in the hypothetical case of resistance to disarmament. On a strategic nationwide level, unlawful orders to disarm the American populace would cause a stalemate within the military. Such unlawful orders would be carried out by some and opposed with force by others at levels from individual to division. Debilitating acts of sabotage both of covert and overt nature, at all branches and levels within the service, would skyrocket.

The US military, by and large, is comprised of citizens of the states and areas most likely to resist disarmament by force. This is the point in the discussion to consider the nation’s considerable veteran population. There are around 10 million veterans in the US between the ages of 22 and 50. We are most concentrated in the areas most likely to resist disarmament. We are the fathers and brothers of many active duty military members. We are armed. We are trained and experienced tankers, pilots, medics, infantrymen and Special Forces Operators. For every Ranger or Marine on active duty, there are as many as 7 armed veterans of fighting age with the exact same skill and training on the civilian side.

Splits within the military in the US happened during the Civil War, and even during the Roosevelt administration. General George McArthur took bribe money and signed on with a group of globalists to overthrow the US Government by force. US Marine Smedley Butler, when approached by the same group, went undercover and gathered information which he took straight to congress. Butler single handedly saved the nation in the most covered up piece of US History of all time. Read “The Plot To Seize the White House” by Jules Archer or “Devil Dog” by David Talbot for more information on this.

When an oath breaking Marxist who throws like a girl gives an order to an oath keeping Marine from Houston to shoot an oath keeping Former Marine from Houston because he won’t disarm, what do you think will happen ? Every active duty officer, sworn to uphold and defend the US Constitution from domestic enemies should think on that long and hard. Although localized actions of all types are likely, I predict strategic level stalemate.

Visualization of 230:1

Imagine a 230 pound man versus a 1 pound purse dog.

Picture a large football stadium, completely sold out. The crowd versus those on the field and sidelines is about a 230:1 ratio.

Imagine a head on collision between a sport bike and a fully loaded 18 wheeler. That is a 230:1 weight ratio.

Take an ice cube from your freezer and hit it with an Oxy-Acetylene torch. That is a 230:1 temperature ratio.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 7:56:44 PM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: MachIV

It is being reported on the news that in Colorado (where Colorado Bureau of Investigations lightly staffed personnel handle background checks) that they currently have a backlog of 10,000 checks and that their “instant check” program is currently taking 10 days. This weekend’s large Tanner Gun Show in Denver will likely be impacted since there will be no way to complete a check before the end of the show.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 7:59:10 PM PST by MtnClimber (I did not vote for 0bama, someone else did that!)
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To: djf
5,000 regular troops could paralyze America. Just set them up at selected choke points on the Interstate highway system. 36 hours later, supermarket shelves would be empty. 24 hours after that, Tea Party people and just about everybody else would be peeing their pants and begging for mercy.

Yeah, that worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan < rolls eyes >

46 posted on 12/28/2012 8:10:33 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: djf

There is no question in my mind that a “False Flag” event will be triggered by the Obongo Bozo Administration within the next four years. It is going to happen!

HST, I remain hopeful that there are men and women of good character within the upper reaches of our government who will blow the whistle on these LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist Bastards, and cause them to be FRog marched to prison.

We live in very perilous times, and it behooves each of us to be aware!

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!


47 posted on 12/28/2012 8:15:27 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: carriage_hill

I saw some Scar 17 mags and asked the guy what he wanted for them. $125 ea!

I bought 6 a couple months ago on Gun Broker for $50 each and that was a ripoff.


48 posted on 12/28/2012 8:19:05 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: djf

LOL... they can’t even control the freaking border! Dream on.


49 posted on 12/28/2012 8:19:28 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: carriage_hill

Tanks for the offer, I really appreciate it. I think I got my fill today even at twice the price.


50 posted on 12/28/2012 8:21:55 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Taxman

I’m glad you are in touch.

Some people just roll their eyes and go back to watching Dancing With the Stars...


51 posted on 12/28/2012 8:22:09 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: crusher

Prices last week in KC started the incredible jump - it’s just going to get worse until this current gun-control stupidity creep gets shut down.


52 posted on 12/28/2012 8:22:54 PM PST by mykroar (BAD-ANON: One Game At A Time)
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To: djf
5,000 regular troops could paralyze America.

24 hours after that, Tea Party people and just about everybody else would be peeing their pants and begging for mercy.

Utter BS

Forget that nonsense. Where do you thing the suff in the store comes from. There are many who still know about that.

53 posted on 12/28/2012 8:23:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: crusher

I have a neighbor that builds weapons, mostly custom AR/AK type platforms with other military type fun like 25mm and .50 cal. Got HUGE order last week for several THOUSAND AR-15s. Client expects to do 5 years of business in 6 months.


54 posted on 12/28/2012 8:31:29 PM PST by fuente
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To: crusher

I have a neighbor that builds weapons, mostly custom AR/AK type platforms with other military type fun like 25mm and .50 cal. Got HUGE order last week for several THOUSAND AR-15s. Client expects to do 5 years of business in 6 months.


55 posted on 12/28/2012 8:31:35 PM PST by fuente
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To: djf

Close to a million criminals (polidiots or not) and rouge LEO’s and FLEAS’s On the roads 24/7 now .... Trying to take what’s ours.

Just another day ....:o)


56 posted on 12/28/2012 8:33:09 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Antoninus II

daft comment - lots of city folks have gardens or friends who garden. Seattle is making for park and school land available for this.


57 posted on 12/28/2012 8:49:44 PM PST by RitchieAprile (the obstreperous gentleman..)
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To: djf

You,Sir
Are Wrong.
5000 manning Checkpoints???


58 posted on 12/28/2012 8:53:40 PM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: djf

“24 hours after that, Tea Party people and just about everybody else would be peeing their pants and begging for mercy.”

Is that you or the whiskey writing that line?

Or do you simply not know many TEA party members?


59 posted on 12/28/2012 9:00:59 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: crusher

Yikes! I’m going to my first auction tomorrow and figure I will either overpay for what I want, or turn right back around because of the sheer volume of people.


60 posted on 12/28/2012 9:03:33 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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