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Let the moochers suffer and the "Elite" puppet masters die.
John Galt

Posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:02 PM PST by jongaltsr

Want to get back to freedom and the Constitution - (which effectively no longer exists?

Learn to TAKE (from the government and liberal entities) - Bleed them dry (Fast and Furious)

In the mean time - Take care of your own needs everyday and always insure that you don't pay taxes by making coop agreements with like minded fighters.

Help people like yourself who can circumvent government at every turn.

The key here is to drain the looters and feed the producers.

Turn your home and the homes of your friends into "Galt's Gulch".

Let the government pay and pay and pay to the leaches and hangers on until they fail and the system collapses. (The faster the better).

Let the leaches of society suffer for awhile. Let them RELEARN what it means to work to survive. Then come back and offer them work under your terms where fair minded men rule (without taxation and regulations up the wazu) and good work receives good pay and great work gets greater pay.

The quicker this happens the more infrastructure will remain viable. If this drags out the looters will only destroy or let rot the assets you will need to rebuild once they are destroyed.

Give people a fair wage for their work and no pay for bad work. Once they start to starve they will learn to work more honestly and only then will they understand that good reliable work gets respect as well as good rewards.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: 2012; constitution; donttreadonme; election; freedom; galt; preppers; survival
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1 posted on 11/08/2012 12:23:10 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr

Oh how I wish this would happen.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 12:26:11 PM PST by Logical me
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To: jongaltsr

The people working now are the Slave caste to the master caste sucking their wealth


3 posted on 11/08/2012 12:28:23 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Everyone who works for a paycheck should immediately change their payroll deductions to 9....(save the funds you will not be sending to IRS for later.) Then, at tax time, if you OWE taxes, file an extension for April, and then another one, I think in August....

I will be signing up for Social Security in April....really didn’t want to but now since we have Obomba...I will, and use the funds to support CONSERVATIVE biz and issues.


4 posted on 11/08/2012 12:30:31 PM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: jongaltsr

I’m in. More tips, please.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:20 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: jongaltsr

We started this 3 years ago. There are 12 in my “Gulch”

Electrician X2
Plumber
Carpenter X2
Mechanic
Doctor X2
Lawyer
Engineer
Iron (welder) worker
Landscaper

We trade services and work on credit. Need your car fixed, you either go into debt to our mechanic, collect a credit or pay him cash or trade something of value. We keep track on gentlemen’s agreements and loose leaf paper.

Shhhhhhh!


6 posted on 11/08/2012 12:33:21 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: Logical me

I am doing it. It is the only way.

Force your churches to get back to preaching Truth and Sin. Take the minds of your children and grandchild from the Marxist preaching machines-—TV and public schools. They need to understand Classical ideas. What is Justice? etc. They need to understand Machiavelli and how politicians work.

We need a spiritual revival-—we need a Rule of Law here—where God is the Truth——not Satanic morality of sodomites teaching Vice as Good to our children to warp their logic and reason and destroy Laws of Nature (truth).


7 posted on 11/08/2012 12:38:26 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tenacious 1

Awesome!
I have some skilled friends, it is time.

To an earlier poster: I am signing up for SS now that I was let go from a great job (with great taxes too).

Cash is king indeed.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 12:38:55 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: goodnesswins

You do know that there is an “underpayment penalty” for failing to submit the “correct” amount throughout the year, don’t you?

What’s the underlying idea behind your tactic? Am I missing something?


9 posted on 11/08/2012 12:39:38 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: savagesusie

Well put!


10 posted on 11/08/2012 12:40:35 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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To: jongaltsr

I disagree, because what you suggest helps enable the leftist Cloward–Piven strategy, which seeks to destroy the nation.

Instead, the best way to neutralize it is to not support it. That is, “you cannot get blood from a turnip”. But just because a turnip gives no blood does not mean it is not doing fine on its own. Turnips existed before farmers, and people lived quite well with minimal government involvement.

You wouldn’t know it, but millions of Americans live below “the radar”, most of whom by choice. They do not carry ID cards, they deal only in cash, they do not talk to police unless forced and ignore government bureaucrats. And it is not an “either/or” proposition. Many people just make it an effort to lower their profile so much that they are ignored.

But then again, neither do they pay taxes, except local sales tax. They do not feed the beast, and because it is so expensive to harass them to file income taxes with a lot of zeros on them, the government has given up on trying to force them to do so.

So this is a good bottom line. Since the government wants to give some people endless largess, doesn’t have the money to do so, but pretends it does, so what? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that it will eventually fail as a system. But when it does, so what?

Government only really exists to protect us from foreign nations. If it can’t do that, or can’t manage its own affairs, a different government will supplant it.


11 posted on 11/08/2012 12:41:26 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: goodnesswins

Extensions to file are for 6 months.. (From April 15th)
Then they are all due on Oct 15th.

If everyone raised their exemtions at work the gov’t would not have the money to use. If nobody paid then Obama cannot be Santa Clause.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 12:42:04 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: Tenacious 1
We started this 3 years ago. There are 12 in my “Gulch”

Kudos. Excellent job.

We'll soon be entering a calorie rather than a cash society. Food will become very valuable for a number of reasons. The woman in your life, if conservative, can help take care of this end. Someone has to know how to grow, preserve, and cook from scratch. Shelf stable food is a big help here, too (such as powdered ___(fill in the blank)___).
Some "wild" foods are excellent, too. It's where I get most of my preserves, jams and jellies. They're good because they don't need refrigeration.

13 posted on 11/08/2012 12:42:58 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: goodnesswins
Everyone who works for a paycheck should immediately change their payroll deductions to 9....(save the funds you will not be sending to IRS for later.) Then, at tax time, if you OWE taxes, file an extension for April, and then another one, I think in August....

Aren't there penalties for withholding too little?

14 posted on 11/08/2012 12:43:25 PM PST by arista
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To: jongaltsr

Here’s my analysis. 1st of all don’t blame Romney. He had 10 times the energy of McCain and stressed the economic issues we all believe in. We were beaten by a coalition of minorities, women, transgendered people, perverts, illegal aliens and the like. If we cannot elect a candidate in the heart of this economic depression, we can never elect a candidate again. We have only 2 choices - compromise our beliefs or go John Galt. Cut off the oxygen supply to the beast by doing everything we can to stop the Federal government from getting our dollars. Yes the economy will implode and we will be seeing scenes out of “The Walking Dead”. but that is the only choice we have. We have reached the tipping point and now are headed in the direction of Venezuala and Rhodesia.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 12:44:16 PM PST by 2nd Amendment (Who is John Galt?)
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To: DOGHEAD
If everyone raised their exemtions at work the gov’t would not have the money to use.

Even more fun, they wouldn't be able to collect the millions of dollars of interest on all that money people over pay each year.

They depend on people over paying because they use that additional interest in their budgets. They've grown to depend on it.

16 posted on 11/08/2012 12:49:09 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: fwdude
I’m in. More tips, please.

Do you have close conservative friends and family that you TRUST? What skills do they have that are of value? Who do they trust? What do you have to offer? If your talent is forecasting the weather, you might be in trouble.

You start with bartering service with someone and acknowledge that something is owed. Define what goods or services you can trade and agree that it is worth it.

Example: If you'll fix my car (I'll buy parts for you) I'll write up your will, or do your taxes, or paint your house, etc.

Keep track of who owes what. As more people invite more to join, and assuming you are getting the right folks, more organization will evolve. We are talking about appointing/electing a group arbitrator/judge because one hour of a doctors time is or is not worth how many hours of a mechanics time. The answer was, what is it worth between the individuals? Is rebuilding a transmission worth diagnosing and treating bronchitus? We are hesitant to agree on structure because the whole system depends on individual agreement and judgement. Within the group, your credibility is your collateral. If you "rip someone off" don't expect any more business. And all in our group understand that. So far, no elections and no leaders, the problem worked itself out and an apology was made to the group for complaining. What we need is a couple farmers! So far no luck.

WARNING: One bad apple can screw it up. Be careful, honest and dilligent.

17 posted on 11/08/2012 12:49:23 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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To: jongaltsr

Fer later


18 posted on 11/08/2012 12:49:23 PM PST by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I disagree, because what you suggest helps enable the leftist Cloward–Piven strategy

There's one really big problem with their theory - human nature. They believe if we're thrust back into the stone age, the poor will finally get a fighting chance. It will be their turn to rise up and become the wealthy.
Problem. People live on social programs because they're lazy. People get rich because they're not. If we're ever thrust back into the stone age like the Oboma folks want, the lazy will still be lazy. The productive will still be productive.
In the end, we'll just be right back where we started. It will have all been a horrible, horrible waste of life.... for nothing.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 12:56:32 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: goodnesswins
My husband and I sat at the table night before the election.
My husband turns 65 in May. He hasn't had a full time job in four years but he does what it takes to help keep us going. I told him if Romney won we would hold out on Social Security and if Obama won, he could go sign up.
He's going to go sign up next week.
He also signs up for medicare.
It's not as much money than if he had waited but we agreed we'd invest it in something.
I am and HCR mail carrier and the contract is up in March. The post office is looking to take my route, that pays half of what a union carrier makes, and give it to a displaced (union member) carrier and pay them twice as much.
I may also be out of a job.
I am 59 and it will also be hard for me to get another job.
I am worried.
I am mad. I am mad at my fellow human being that shoves it in my face everyday that they have their entitlements and government giveaways and we never asked for a thing. It shames me to feel this way but I can't help it. I have Obama derangement syndrome.
I didn't care for Romney but I thought maybe with him as president, we would have a little more time to find someone to present as a good candidate. That didn't happen. My husband and I don't have many more years left in this world but there is something the government can't take. It is my pride. They won't break me I am more determined than ever to talk to the lefties all around me and explain to them the error of their ways.
20 posted on 11/08/2012 12:57:46 PM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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