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1 posted on 06/03/2012 7:30:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Not a fan of the Metro-sexual thing they are pushing on their customers. I really don't see windows 8 working out in the business environment with the stupid metro-sexual start screen with colored blocks that resemble the romper room area in certain McDonalds restaurants, which is supposedly good as a touch screen interface. Do you want your next start screen to look like this?

Then they stupidly made no way of reverting that atrocity to the classic start menu and unless there is a revision to be made in the release candidate version, there will be no classic interface.

2 posted on 06/03/2012 7:36:21 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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After XP it’s been all downhill.


3 posted on 06/03/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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makes your teeth itch

Hate it when my teeth itch.

4 posted on 06/03/2012 7:38:10 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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This review sounds a bit over the top.

However I can easily believe that MS has (like General Motors and many others) become too big, too bloated, too inbred, too political, too sure that they understand what the customer wants.


7 posted on 06/03/2012 7:39:04 AM PDT by nascarnation
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Terrible article. Usually Dvorak is pretty good.


10 posted on 06/03/2012 7:41:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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It seems that the creators of all major operating systems are hell-bent on destroying the user experience, or at least dumb it down so Justin Bieber fans can use it efficiently.

Apple is going to make their Mac interfaces like IOS (think Ipod and Iphone).

Ubuntu already released Unity, which is difficult to use and makes no sense on a computer with a bigger screen.

Now Windows is making a PlaySkool interface.

At least we still have XFCE in Linux. As lacking as it is, I can at least make it do most of what I want.


13 posted on 06/03/2012 7:47:42 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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John C. Dvorak again huh?
Been reading stuff from him for over 15 years from the various ZDNET magazines (PC mag etc), and off the top of my head, I don't remember a single time he has made much sense or been right on any major issue. Dvorak will always be Dvorak, an attention seeking individual with his own private demons.
From the same Marketwatch:

Microsoft could change tablet game with Windows 8: analysts

“Our survey suggests 25% of users expect to buy Windows 8 tablet and Office is a key feature, especially for those considering their first tablet purchase,” the note said.

Given Microsoft’s strong position in consumer and business PCs, they added, “Microsoft’s Windows 8 with Office could become the second largest tablet platform,””

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/06/01/microsoft-could-change-tablet-game-with-windows-8-analysts/

14 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:26 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Microsoft has done this for years, follow a great operating system with one that stinks. Anyone remember Windows ME or Vista? I held out on adopting Windows until Win 3.1 and still griped about having to manually integrate third party Winsock and TCP/IP stacks so I could get on the Internet. I held on to my Win98SE through WinME until Windows XP came out. I held on to Win XP until Win 7 came out. This is in fact my first Win 7 machine. I ordered my Dell Vostro with Win XP several years ago. At the time it was still a free “downgrade” available for people who needed compatibility with corporate software. They’ll shoot themselves in the foot with Win 8, realize they are losing sales, and try to do better with Win 9. I will probably keep my 64 bit Win 7 as long as possible.


15 posted on 06/03/2012 7:54:57 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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I liked XP, hated Vista and love 7.

If this is what 8 is like, I’ll pass.


16 posted on 06/03/2012 7:56:00 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Worst. President. Ever.)
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The usual Microsoft is going to die claptrap.

Until they don’t, then the little choir of Apple/Linux loudmouths will go back under their bridges like they did after they said Windows7 was terrible.


17 posted on 06/03/2012 7:56:06 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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It’s just an opinion, so mine is every bit as valid as yours or the next guy, but I believe the Win8 OS will be well received as it is targeted at the tablet and mobile user, even if the desktop user will see very little benefit from this OS.

Take for example the complaint Dvorak makes about the screen real estate on his 27” monitor example:

“Do you work on a huge 27-inch or bigger monitor? You know, so you have room to organize your programs and files? Well, imagine everything running full screen on that. It’s a joke.”

Well, this OS is not meant to enhance the desktop user’s experience, but instead a tablet users interface (how often do you muti-task via two apps at once on a tablet or a phone?) I manage resources in the IT industry, and I can speak from personal observation that there are a lot of the younger, constantly connected mobile (CCM) users who are very interested in this OS. Many are Android devotees so there is some substance here to Microsoft’s approach.

The general thinking is that the Win8 OS might be, in fact, a game-changer for MS in that they may end up suddenly dominating the non-Apple table OS market.


20 posted on 06/03/2012 7:57:35 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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Their current ploy:

Buy a Win7 pc/laptop now [earlier purchases do not qualify] and get the Win8 upgrade for $14.99

[I recall with VISTA that they couldn’t even give it away. They even tried to encourage online ‘pirates’ to pirate it. The ‘pirates’ didn’t even want that piece of crap.

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The best thing MS should have done was update WinXP to use the expanded memory that Win7 uses. XP was good, stable most of the time, solid for productivity.

Win7 is okay, but it has some definite issues. Those programmers should be shot! and no need to wait for sunrise. The file explorer is atrocious. The User Access Control feature is atrocious, too. The Aero theme is cutsie but impractical for production computing.


21 posted on 06/03/2012 7:59:29 AM PDT by TomGuy
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MS early innovation has been replaced by pure greed. The pace of changing of O/S is that for no other reason.


24 posted on 06/03/2012 8:00:43 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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Not long ago I gave up on a Windows Vista laptop and took a hammer to the hard drive and threw out the entire mess. It was the most unfriendly user operating system I have ever experienced with Microsoft, and I go back to the earliest version Windows 3.1.

I currently have Windows 7 on a newish laptop, but even then, it is not as user friendly as XP. Once you find your way around (takes time and effort), it's similar to XP, but I see no additional benefits as a casual user. May be business or industrial applications find it better.

Being a capitalist, I understand why these tech companies keep changing/offering new and supposedly improved operating systems. That said, how many more gazillions of dollars does Gates and Co. need? If they want another gazillion bucks, let them diversify and leave their operating systems to what works. Or someone like me is going to move to Apple, which I've been thinking about since the Vista fiasco. When they stop supporting XP, I'm done.

My biggest pisser is software companies who make me buy their latest versions so I don't lose accessibility. Quicken does it every few years and I use them to pay and print my bills. Just had to buy their new version which also isn't as user friendly.

So I take it that Apple doesn't change their OS and is probably the better choice for continuity? Comments?

BTW, Kaspersky Pure 2.0 is possibly the best ant-virus and wall to ever be developed. Since I put that on my machines, I have had NO problems with virus, trojans, malware, etc., and it allows me to download any applications without turning it off. Just a heads up.

26 posted on 06/03/2012 8:01:11 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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I got miffed when they redid MS Office. Used to be able to whiz through creating spreadsheets & presentations. Now it takes 2-3 clicks to do what used to take one, and the whole navigation changed. I find myself having to click help to do some of the simplest tasks.

Screw Microsoft.


30 posted on 06/03/2012 8:05:56 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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The screen looks like a take off of the Windows phone with tiles.


32 posted on 06/03/2012 8:07:40 AM PDT by Windriver
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Spoke with my computer-geek neighbor the other day. He had an astouding statistic, that Ubuntu / Unix flavors in less than a years time have gone from something like 8% of ( US ? or World ? ) users to 14 and change..

Anyone else have similar data? If so, this is big news...

33 posted on 06/03/2012 8:08:20 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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Why am I unsurprised? My Tosh laptop was dying slowly after 3 years (motherboard issues) and I needed a new one. I bought one last month because I did NOT want to wait and have to buy a machine with 8 on it. The sales guy at Best Buy said: "Oh--they've been testing this new OS for 18 months, no need to worry." And I said: "I have lived through ME and Vista, so I will stick with 7."

Good choice, Pb.

37 posted on 06/03/2012 8:17:17 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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I supervise about 10 computers at my company. I still have a couple running Win98. Several of them are on XP, a couple on Vista, and a couple on Win7. I got rid of a Win3.1 three years ago. The problem is some of my periferals. I have several scanners and printers that will not work on the newer versions of MS. IOW, I bought a new computer for one of my engineers and had to spend about $370 more for a printer/scanner combo.

Normally we don’t provide separate printers for users to save on the cost of ink. But none of our scanners work with the newer versions of MS, and you can’t buy a separate scanner anymore. They are all packaged in those printer/copier/scanner/fax units. And of course when you buy a special machine for one employee, everybody wants one.


39 posted on 06/03/2012 8:18:45 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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I like 7, and see no reason to "upgrade" to anything.

If Microsoft pushes me to change by ceasing support for 7, I'll change to a Mac (and I know that I'm not alone.)

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40 posted on 06/03/2012 8:21:07 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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