yes, this is after you boot up EVERY time. A real PITA.
Posted on 06/03/2012 7:30:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
BERKELEY, Calif. (MarketWatch) — I am writing this review on a computer that runs Windows Vista. It’s not that bad.
Generally speaking, I like Microsoft Corp. MSFT -2.54% and what it has done. Over the years, I’ve even supported the idea that Microsoft’s Bob interface was mismarketed and actually was unique and interesting.
That said, Windows 8 looks to me to be an unmitigated disaster that could decidedly hurt the company and its future.
This opinion is based on using the new release candidate beta that is pretty much what will finally ship after some bug fixes.
It’s not that the product out-and-out stinks. It is refreshingly slick-looking and modern, albeit without any charm whatsoever.
The real problem is that it is both unusable and annoying. It makes your teeth itch as you keep asking, “Why are they doing this!?”
First of all, the system-software product is mostly divorced from all the thought and trends developed by Windows over the years, as if to say that they were wrong the whole time, so let’s try something altogether new.
No business will tolerate this software, let me assure you. As a productivity tool, it is unusable.
Most applications cannot even be scaled down and so take up the whole screen. To even get out of these “apps,” you have to ram the cursor down into the lower left corner and click. That puts you back onto the vapid “Metro” start screen, where you can begin another miserable adventure.
Do you work on a huge 27-inch or bigger monitor? You know, so you have room to organize your programs and files? Well, imagine everything running full screen on that. It’s a joke.
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Their current ploy:
Buy a Win7 pc/laptop now [earlier purchases do not qualify] and get the Win8 upgrade for $14.99
[I recall with VISTA that they couldn’t even give it away. They even tried to encourage online ‘pirates’ to pirate it. The ‘pirates’ didn’t even want that piece of crap.
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The best thing MS should have done was update WinXP to use the expanded memory that Win7 uses. XP was good, stable most of the time, solid for productivity.
Win7 is okay, but it has some definite issues. Those programmers should be shot! and no need to wait for sunrise. The file explorer is atrocious. The User Access Control feature is atrocious, too. The Aero theme is cutsie but impractical for production computing.
Dvorac has been anti-Microsoft since DOS 2.1 IIRC
Dvorac has been anti-Microsoft since DOS 2.1 IIRC
MS early innovation has been replaced by pure greed. The pace of changing of O/S is that for no other reason.
yeah, this is like when XP was on SP2 and running rock solid when they tried to force feed the masses Windows Vista. That was only 5 years ago now, and they should have learned their lesson from that fiasco, but sadly they did not. Windows 7 is like XP was 10 years ago; ie. a stable platform that Microsoft for whatever reason seems destined to kill in fovor of their vision of trying to be like a damned touch tablet OS, or another attempt at being a wannabe Apple OS.
I currently have Windows 7 on a newish laptop, but even then, it is not as user friendly as XP. Once you find your way around (takes time and effort), it's similar to XP, but I see no additional benefits as a casual user. May be business or industrial applications find it better.
Being a capitalist, I understand why these tech companies keep changing/offering new and supposedly improved operating systems. That said, how many more gazillions of dollars does Gates and Co. need? If they want another gazillion bucks, let them diversify and leave their operating systems to what works. Or someone like me is going to move to Apple, which I've been thinking about since the Vista fiasco. When they stop supporting XP, I'm done.
My biggest pisser is software companies who make me buy their latest versions so I don't lose accessibility. Quicken does it every few years and I use them to pay and print my bills. Just had to buy their new version which also isn't as user friendly.
So I take it that Apple doesn't change their OS and is probably the better choice for continuity? Comments?
BTW, Kaspersky Pure 2.0 is possibly the best ant-virus and wall to ever be developed. Since I put that on my machines, I have had NO problems with virus, trojans, malware, etc., and it allows me to download any applications without turning it off. Just a heads up.
They took out many of the features: media center, media player, etc.
They have crippled their own product.
There is still a real need for a professional, working operating system. Even though even the company I work for has begun issuing iPads to people working remotely, since those people only need email, web and basic word processing, we have a lot of graphics and design professionals, along with accounting folks who just need a REAL computer.
Win8 looks like an extension of the Xbox, Windows Phone experience — a completely consumer experience. It doesn’t look like it will have any place in an office environment. It looks good for novice users and the web, email, games user, but useless for power users.
We can only hope they have a parallel Win8 Professional for people who still need a real computer. ...otherwise, I’m sticking with Win7 or buying a Mac. (Despite their similar approach in Lion.)
Truly? You have to log in to an email account before you can get to the home screen? If so, I'm going Apple on my next computer.
I got miffed when they redid MS Office. Used to be able to whiz through creating spreadsheets & presentations. Now it takes 2-3 clicks to do what used to take one, and the whole navigation changed. I find myself having to click help to do some of the simplest tasks.
Screw Microsoft.
I’ve been migrating to Linux for a number of years, this might be the final incentive. I’ve got a real estate program that only runs in IE is the only hangup.
The screen looks like a take off of the Windows phone with tiles.
Anyone else have similar data? If so, this is big news...
yes, this is after you boot up EVERY time. A real PITA.
Micorsot has a habit of releasing new software that has LESS features than previous versions, and callig it an upgrade
One of the best products for productivity was NetMeeting,m and they just removed it... They have Windows live meeting now, but it is not as good
MSN Messenger was nearly perfect, so they took out the ability to block annoying spam users, and the web camera interface that worked, and replaced it with one that only allows one user to have a webcam sssion with you at a time. I used to have 5 or six people I would talk with at a time from offices all around the world.
My biggest gripe with software upgrades/updates is that they can cause more problems then they resolve.
Just this morning I had to drop Firefox 13 and return to FF12 to get a banking tunnel safety software (Rapport) to work. The Rapport upgrade was supposed to work with 13; it didn’t. So, I had a choice of keeping FF 13 and losing Rapport or keeping Rapport and reverting to the previous FF 12.
Mozilla is still continued the rapid release insanity. I will be glad when the fire whoever came up that ‘brilliant’ [/s] idea.
Good choice, Pb.
While they are shooting programmers [post #21], they can also line up the idiot who came up with the ribbon menus.
Those things are ridiculous.
Also, with Win7, I get exasperated moving the mouse around a block to find out where they hid the link.
Bring back BUTTONS. They were easy to find, easy to use.
I supervise about 10 computers at my company. I still have a couple running Win98. Several of them are on XP, a couple on Vista, and a couple on Win7. I got rid of a Win3.1 three years ago. The problem is some of my periferals. I have several scanners and printers that will not work on the newer versions of MS. IOW, I bought a new computer for one of my engineers and had to spend about $370 more for a printer/scanner combo.
Normally we don’t provide separate printers for users to save on the cost of ink. But none of our scanners work with the newer versions of MS, and you can’t buy a separate scanner anymore. They are all packaged in those printer/copier/scanner/fax units. And of course when you buy a special machine for one employee, everybody wants one.
If Microsoft pushes me to change by ceasing support for 7, I'll change to a Mac (and I know that I'm not alone.)
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