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Here's the direct link to the document: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2012/05/hawaiis-verification-of-president-obamas-birth.php?page=1

Seems we still do not have the long form, nor do we have any discussion of Obama not being eligible to be President due to the fact his father was not a U.S. citizen at the time of Barack's birth (not a 'Natural Born Citizen').

1 posted on 05/25/2012 12:09:06 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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This is a blog, right?

I’m not knocking it, just asking.

Am I correct that the AZ SOS was seeking documentation, or verification of such, that would entitle Obama to appear on the AZ ballot, yet the issue he pursued was ONLY Obama’s birth in Hawaii and NOT the one of his being a natural born citizen or not?


2 posted on 05/25/2012 12:14:05 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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3 posted on 05/25/2012 12:15:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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He’s the messiah and messiahs are not born. They are immaculated!


5 posted on 05/25/2012 12:16:12 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Doesn’t this come back to the difference between a “Certificate of Live Birth”, and a “Birth Certificate”. It seems probable that Obama was born* — and that’s all a COLB verifies.

(* You could make arguments for “hatched”, “cloned”, “stitched together and zapped by lightening”, or any number of alternatives to “born” — but, that is another discussion.)


6 posted on 05/25/2012 12:16:50 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Hawaii State Registrar does not verify authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate - Washington Times
7 posted on 05/25/2012 12:18:19 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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This is what convinced Arizona’s Sec. of State? So called original birth certificates didn’t work, but a letter from Onaki does? LOL


13 posted on 05/25/2012 12:29:45 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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The Announcements sidebar is reserved for FR business and the Frontpage sidebar is reserved for news items that are truly Front Page news. Not this.


15 posted on 05/25/2012 12:32:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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What a conundrum. At this point lets just kick his ash out come November and send the Kenyan fraud packing off to Hawaii, Chicago or back to Africa.


19 posted on 05/25/2012 12:36:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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Don’t fall for this...TPM is a far-left website which is using sarcasm to try and suck us into this. Don’t take the bait.


20 posted on 05/25/2012 12:37:08 PM PDT by montag813
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Tbis is exactly what we've been getting all along, an unsubstantiated claim.

The digitally created crap released by Obama still needs to be explained. WHY was the forgery committed?

21 posted on 05/25/2012 12:40:20 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Why give time of birth but not day of birth? This is crazy. There is only on reason for years they have just not given the complete, accurate info out. After all this time to keep holding stuff back.


22 posted on 05/25/2012 12:44:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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It seems like another document verying the existence of another document.

I want to see Arizona use full faith and credit to get physical access to the public records of Hawaii. A person from Arizona needs to see it all firsthand.

-PJ

27 posted on 05/25/2012 1:03:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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The bastard was hatched on a stump like a lizard. So why the hell does anyone think he has a birth certificate?


29 posted on 05/25/2012 1:10:07 PM PDT by crz
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That’s because the date of birth wasn’t requested on the SPECIAL request for verification, which is the only part of Bennett’s request that was retained as originally filed. The items that actually matter to Presidential eligibility were all on the VERIFICATION REQUEST FORM that Bennett submitted. The HDOH never responded to that official form and yet Bennett said he had gotten what he asked for so apparently Bennett withdrew that request form.

Why he did that is discussed at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2887501/posts


31 posted on 05/25/2012 1:12:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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Obama said he was born in Kenya. That’s good enough for me.

Paraphrased quote:

“I actually WAS born in Kenya...before I was born in Hawaii.”


35 posted on 05/25/2012 1:38:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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This document, consistent with the name of the source, is a “Talking point.” The con has always been to keep those dependent upon the media, the Enquirer (not to impugn The Enquirer, which has broken stories the media elite wouldn't touch). Here is the only fact you need to know. If Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, he has had more than enough time to have the world's best create forgeries. Money is no object, as Percy Sutton, Malcolm X's attorney, NY Assemblyman, Army Air Force Pilot, told everyone. He said Obmama’s patron is “One of the world's wealthiest men.” That was when Khalid al-Mansour, Whalid bin-Talal’s attorney, and formerly Black Panther founder Don Warden, asked for help getting Barack into Harvard. Harvard later received a direct grant of 20 million dollars, as well as the Whalid Bin-Talal Islamic Studies Center, the largest branch of Harvard Divinity School. Here is just one of hundreds of citations, but perhaps the most relevant, since it turned the common law into precedent, Chief Justice Morrison Waite's foundation for making Virginia Minor a citizen by first asserting the common-law definition. There was no Constitution definition for who were our citizens before 1867, thus the only path of certainty - "never doubted" was to show that Virginia was natural born, and thus a ciizen. Minor v. Happersett, (1875):

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Obama has never claimed to be a natural born citizen. He has clearly stated that he is a 14th Amendment citizen, a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen. That was our law. Goebbel’s “Big Lie” tactic is being applied by both parties and the legislators and judges whose incomes could be at risk if their complicity is understood by enough of the public. Repeat something often enough, and ridicule those who won't accept the lie, and eventually the truth will be forgotten. This truth is repeated in dozens of supreme court decisions, and in the Constitution, which by design doesn't contain definitions, referring to the common-law familiar to its framers, and in the works of dozens of legal scholars from The Enlightenment, and from the time of our founders and framers. But our educators are wards of the state, and don't dare question past history. Michelle told us Barack would re-write history, and this is what is happening.

40 posted on 05/25/2012 1:56:40 PM PDT by Spaulding
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