[Red Badger]

[liberalh8ter]

The question is, would Obama be able to obtain a driver's license with this document? The answer is......NO. Therefore, it's not proof. OTOH, he's not eligible no matter what ‘cause his Daddy was a British National....not a U.S. citizen.

[Exmil_UK]

Assuming this is the actual reply from Hawaii DOH Registrar Onaka it seems to have a few problems.

1/ No Birth date verified

2/ Its an e-mailed computer file, legally ambiguous at the very best. If true legal contact had been established the SOS should have FedEx'ed a notarized letter and and Hawaii should have replied with a physical verification letter by return courier.

3/ “Date Accepted” terminology, as opposed to “Date Filed”

4/ The verification is of the “information” contained in the SOS’s Obama file attachment. Hawaii does not verify that 151 61 10641 actually is a certificate of Live birth. Only that it is a vital record or birth certificate.

If the Registrar had a legit Certificate of Live Birth he would have verified it with an exact phrase that states EXACTLY what is being verified.

This is all just a game to come up with language that “sounds great” to a lay person but in precise legal terms does not hold water. It contains wiggle room for Onaka to escape.

[bluecat6]

Age of Father....

27 was the real age or at least that age that matches his INS records and he filled out in late August of 1961.

[old republic]

That’s pretty bizarre. Why would the verification say the time of birth, but not the date of birth?

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

It appears that Doctor Onaka's signature was applied by someone else with the initials 'gK'.

So the verification was 'certified' by a clerk, not the State Registrar. Would think that is acceptable practice for such an important document?

Regards,
GtG

[opentalk]

Odd, DOB missing. But time of birth is listed. Hospital is listed.

They are indirectly showing the public what to scrutinize.