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Boy vaccinated with Girls version of Gardasil...total pancreatic failure. Questions...

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:54:06 PM PDT by Mama Shawna

RARELY post anything...this is a total vanity, but, I would like some input. We have a customer who has a 14 year old son that got the WRONG Gardasil shot last fall. The clinic where he got the shot notified them 3 months after the fact that he got the FEMALE version, instead of the MALE version, along with 15 other boys (they wanted his parents to bring him back in for the male version...and they refused, I think, luckily). Just in the last month, this kid has had total pancreatic failure, and now must take insulin shots, and monitor his blood sugar before EVERY meal, for the REST of his life. I can't help but think this is related to the Gardasil. I've done some googling, but can't really find anything out there. Does anyone out there in Freeper-land have any experience in this, and can clue me in? I just feel horrible for our customer and his kid, and as soon as I heard the words 'Gardasil' and 'mistake', red flags went up BIGTIME!! Thanks FREEPERS!


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1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Mama Shawna

Or it could be one of those really awful coincidences.... your description is one of early onset diabetes. Does anyone in his family (uncle, cousin, grandparent, sibling, or parent) have diabetes?


2 posted on 05/01/2012 8:58:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mama Shawna

Or it could be one of those really awful coincidences.... your description is one of early onset diabetes. Does anyone in his family (uncle, cousin, grandparent, sibling, or parent) have diabetes?


3 posted on 05/01/2012 8:59:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mama Shawna

Never heard of different boy and girl vaccines, at all. Viruses don’t care which sex you are.

And there is only one dosing protocol and one form of Gardasil. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf

Someone got the story very mixed up.

As to this boy, it sounds as though he has juvenile onset diabetes.


4 posted on 05/01/2012 9:00:33 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Mama Shawna

This would be hard to prove, I think. Early onset- or type 1 diabetes commonly strikes about this age. As a school nurse, I would say that it doesn’t seem to be related, but his family should talk with the doctor.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 9:07:22 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Mama Shawna

Well don’t mention this if you are running for office or conservatives even here at FR will crucify you (Search: “Michelle Bachmann”).

But I have a neighbor girl who within 2 days of getting the shot is just slightly above what appears to be a vegetative state for the last 2 years.


6 posted on 05/01/2012 9:10:02 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Mama Shawna

The stats on the test subjects are at the Merck site. Out of almost 30,000 individuals (girls and women) given Gardasil two came down with diabetes insulin depend type. This was the same number as the number of individuals that came down with diabetes insulin dependent type in the control group.

This is what is often called statistically insignificant and non-causal.

While it maybe that this is what ‘caused’ the failure of this young man’s pancreatic failure it will be a tough haul to actually prove it.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 9:11:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mama Shawna
Why would a 14 year old boy be given this injection!?

Am I missing something here or just being an old fuddy-duddy??

8 posted on 05/01/2012 9:27:16 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Mama Shawna

It’s called Type 1 Diabetes, or juvenile diabetes.

It does not sound like he has complete pancreatic failure. The pancreas also puts out enzymes that the stomach has to have to process food.


9 posted on 05/01/2012 9:28:28 PM PDT by JRochelle (Note to the MSM: Unemployment has been higher under every month of Obama than any month under Bush.)
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To: Mama Shawna

I know. Let’s stop pumping behavior-problem-drugs into our kids and get back to spending time with them.


10 posted on 05/01/2012 9:29:50 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: hocndoc

There is no difference. It is dosed the same and given the same.


11 posted on 05/01/2012 9:31:58 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: higgmeister

My guess is that the pediatrician suggested it and the parents said yes. There are a bunch of the ‘newer’ vaccines that I made sure my child never received


12 posted on 05/01/2012 9:33:19 PM PDT by Nifster
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WHile The Juvenile Diabetes Foundation still uses the term, doctors haven’t used the term ‘juvenile’ for a very long time. Insulin dependent diabetes can occur at almost anytime in one’s life-—


13 posted on 05/01/2012 9:35:37 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mama Shawna

If the parents feel the events are related (the vaccination and the organ failure) encourage them to report the event to VAERS (The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) here http://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index so that it may investigated and reviewed properly.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 9:38:51 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Mama Shawna

Lawyer Central Network, LLC apparently owns classaction.org which has a page on Gardasil which includes a link to a case review form:

http://www.classaction.org/gardasil.html

classaction.org reports on this page that several lawsuits have been filed.

Here is a link to report at FDA website dated March 13, 2012.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/PediatricAdvisoryCommittee/UCM302352.pdf

Apparently the typical pharmaceutical lawsuit cycle is just getting started for this product.


15 posted on 05/01/2012 9:39:00 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Mama Shawna

Of course, I am not making any representations about classaction.org or it’s owners or affiliates.

I ain’t a lawyer !

I just found those links, thought you might find them useful.

Oh, the pdf file, remember, when you open the pdf file you can search in it. If you search for the word diabetes you’ll find the counts for it; pancreatitis is right above it in the list.

God bless.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 9:43:49 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Nifster

Well you are wrong about that.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 9:44:08 PM PDT by JRochelle (Note to the MSM: Unemployment has been higher under every month of Obama than any month under Bush.)
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To: JRochelle

“Insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (IDDM) is a medical term that describes diabetes mellitus that requires insulin therapy to avoid ketoacidosis. IDDM is often considered a synonym for juvenile diabetes mellitus and type 1 diabetes mellitus, though the three terms are not entirely congruent:
Juvenile diabetes is considered an unsatisfactory and somewhat obsolete term because type 1 diabetes can develop in adults, and type 2 can occur in children.
IDDM includes type 1 diabetes, but as type 2 diabetes progresses, in some people it may reach a degree of insulin deficiency that requires insulin treatment.”


18 posted on 05/01/2012 9:46:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Mama Shawna

I really doubt that he had total pancreatic failure. If he did he would be required to take all kinds of supplements to help him digest fats and other foods. He would also be so sick he would reqiire hospitalization. I know this firsthand as I was hospitalized with pancreatitis for 5 months last year and was placed on a ventilator for two weeks. The pancreas also has specific cells in it that secrete insulin, They are called schwan cells. The death of these cells cause insulin dependant diabetes. I’m an RN and the hot topic lately is that this is caused by an autoimmune response where your body attacks these schwan cells and therefore there is no insulin production. I have not heard about any gardasil problems with the pancreas. If a problem showed up it would most likley be with the liver as it is the body’s most important organ and cleanses the body of all its poisions that it produces just by living. My prayers are with this young boy and I wish him well. There is also alot of hope with stem cell injections to produce new schwan cells that this family should look into. God Bless


19 posted on 05/01/2012 9:47:22 PM PDT by timlilje
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To: Nifster

My brother’s pancreas worked for a while, then quit. At 2 y.o.

What’s more interesting is that occasionally his pancreas functions (for part of a night), and it causes the worst problems ever (low blood sugar).

I really don’t think this is the vaccination causing this. It’s just the way Juvenile Diabetes sets in. One day you are OK, the next day you are insulin dependent for the rest of your life.

My brother had zero vaccinations at 2 y.o. He is lucky and is now at the age of 34, thanks to the technology of the insulin pump. I hope one day integrated blood sugar monitoring and insulin delivery systems can give him something even closer to a normal life. The occasional ultra low blood sugars are just scary.

As for Gardasil, I will give it to my kids when I have them. Even if my kids are angels, they may end marrying someone who was not such an angel, and HPV is a very insidious virus, and kills lots of women via cervical cancer, and has the potential to trigger cancers in males as well.

Because the virus itself is so stealthy, carriers usually don’t even know they have it. People usually discover it as a source of their tumors or genital warts years after they are infected.

Since the founding of this nation, each year, more and more people experiment with sex. If you find the perfect virgin mate, good for you! But many won’t, and they should protect themselves, since the protection is now available.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 9:52:18 PM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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