Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 02/26/2012 10:26:47 PM PST by Altariel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Altariel

What gave the right for the officer to enter the property without the owner’s permission?

She wasn’t a suspect and she had broken no law.

It’s almost as though cops are looking for dogs to shoot.


2 posted on 02/26/2012 10:32:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

Sad story. Ms. Baca probably has never had much dealings with the cops.

She requested that she be notified when they were on the way - unlikely to happen.

She assumed the officer would respond knowing the reason for her call - it could well be that never happened either, given the cop climbed her fence. Maybe the cop thought the caller was in a potentially bad situation. Maybe.

While I can’t blame her for doing so, personally I would never leave aggressive, or for that matter, any, dogs outside even in the back yard, knowing people were on the way over - particularly cops that routinely don’t respect private property.


3 posted on 02/26/2012 10:43:21 PM PST by expat1000
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

friggin’ cops....


4 posted on 02/26/2012 10:45:42 PM PST by mowowie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

Moron cops strike again.


8 posted on 02/26/2012 10:50:09 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

She called to make a report, not to have the cops go in her backyard!


9 posted on 02/26/2012 10:51:35 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
Juiced up freaks.

12 posted on 02/26/2012 11:07:06 PM PST by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
There is another bunch of civilians who won't care if some pig doesn't make it home one night.

These trigger happy thugs aren't bright eough to realize that they are peeing on their last support group.

We are inches away from a civil war, and Obama's shaved headed bloused boot pretend soldiers are trying to make sure that every one of those "civilians" they sneer at are going to enjoy taking revenge on them...

13 posted on 02/26/2012 11:17:23 PM PST by jonascord (Ask any Democralintont. He's firmly convinced that he's brighter than y ou.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

About 35 years ago, I had just set the timing on my 71 Chevy,
then I asked an older auto class teacher; “How do they get out of time, after you have just set the timing?”

He answered;................ “HUMAN.”


14 posted on 02/26/2012 11:24:24 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
Someday there will be an altercation between a LEO and a civilian over something similar (maybe a 'dynamic entry' into the wrong address), and in the shootout that ensues people will get killed. Usually it is the civilian (perp or otherwise) who gets killed because the LEOs have the advantage of surprise (and in the case of dynamic entry the LEOs are usually SWAT, or at the very least SWAT-esque), but someday they will break into the wrong house. The house of a civilian who is either ex-military or trains like crazy (and I don't mean shooting at paper targets - proper reality-based shooting), is well armed, and believes that SWAT InFil is being done by criminals wearing balaclavas and totting modded AR-15s. The civilian will probably not survive the shootout (few would against armed professionals bursting into one's home unexpected), but before he goes he will take a couple of the LEOs with him. In the ensuing media (and maybe legal) firestorm there will finally be an end to dynamic entry by LEOs that do not ascertain beyond all reasonable doubt that the address being targeted is the actual address.

Then, after that incident, there will be another in a totally different State. This will be about the killing of a favored pet in a situation that is totally unjustified. The owner of the pet, in a rush of rage and a flush of emotion, will react in a manner that can best be described as 'murderous.' The owner will not survive, but like the first case he will go down with his own 'butcher's bill.' This will also lead to a change of protocol in regards to treatment of private property (whether private property is one's home, or one's dog) and the circumstances that give a LEO justification in engaging in certain action.

Someday. Soon. It is not a wish (I wouldn't wish for anyone to be harmed, be he/she civilian or LEO, and I believe the vast majority of LEOs do real good under hard circumstances and little recognition) ...it is just plain mathematics. Permutations and probabilities, and the likelihood of an event occurring based on the current trajectory of certain precursor events. What is a surprise is that there hasn't been a dynamic entry yet to the 'wrong' house (wrong as in an innocent civilian who knows his way around personal defense) or kill the wrong dog (such as the case when some perps killed the dog of a former SEAL who chased them for miles in a highspeed chase at night). It is a matter of mathematics ...and if I was the Chief of a PD I would be a little worried since it appears, so far, LEOs have been tossing straight Heads with no Tails for years now. Sooner or later they will bump into the wrong civilian. Sooner or later.

23 posted on 02/27/2012 12:22:19 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

Yet more proof for the truism that “There are very few situations that can’t be made worse by the addition of a cop.”


25 posted on 02/27/2012 12:59:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

I will never, ever, call the cops if at all possible. I will do everything to avoid any involvement with them. They are not to be trusted.


36 posted on 02/27/2012 5:31:32 AM PST by x1stcav (I'm voting for anyone in 2012 but an Ivy Leager.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
The officer hopped a fence???
A posted fence???
To answer a non emergency call???
Is he a complete moron or just a half-wit???
When issued the call the office was likely given the family contact number. Upon arrival and being obviously blocked from normal entry, the officer should have phoned the complainant. He would have discovered they were not home. The officer acted improperly at best.
38 posted on 02/27/2012 5:57:06 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

39 posted on 02/27/2012 6:00:56 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

Cop acting stupidly!


41 posted on 02/27/2012 6:35:43 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

The point that strikes me about all of these dog shootings is that they must be the result of official or unofficial policy. There are way too many of them to be a massive coincidence.

I suspect that the policy is unofficial - one JBT talking to another in the JBT locker room, and then another and then another. I think that’s how it happens.


42 posted on 02/27/2012 6:44:53 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

More indications that the police have turned into thugs with guns. Must have looking to get himself on the SWAT squad so he can play soldier on civilians.


48 posted on 02/27/2012 7:25:18 AM PST by JayAr36
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
Despite having no warrant and no probable cause, he jumped a fence and killed a dog for biting him. But there is “no cause for disciplinary action.”

Go figure.
49 posted on 02/27/2012 7:29:48 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

“..., however that’s the situation that occurred and so now we’ll deal with it,” Lt. Robert McDonald said.

NO—The family is now left to deal with it and the cops walk with impunity and the satisfaction of knowing there is one less dog in the community.


55 posted on 02/27/2012 8:03:51 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel
Baca said she plans to hire an attorney.

Well, good for them!

The sooner some clever lawyer nails one of these jack-booted thugs the better. Too many of them just think that because they have a badge they can do about anything that pleases them. And no, aside from an occasional speeding ticket I have had no run-ins with the law.

56 posted on 02/27/2012 8:10:16 AM PST by OldPossum (ou)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Altariel

http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-national/questions-after-police-shoot-dog-new-mexico

An update, of sorts:

Why did the officer jump a fence to enter the property for something as minor as filing a report about an online scam?

Why did the officer enter the property when there were signs posted on the property warning of “guard dogs” on the premises - especially for a non emergency situation?

Why did the officer claim that the dog bit him, but the State Police advised KOB 4 News that the officer was not hurt?

There is an investigation underway into this officer’s use of deadly force...according to the report, Baca is securing an attorney.


65 posted on 03/01/2012 1:27:27 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson