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Posted on 02/13/2012 10:30:41 AM PST by Twotone
Hungary has taken a bold stand against biotech giant Monsanto and genetic modification by destroying 1000 acres of maize found to have been grown with genetically modified seeds, according to Hungary deputy state secretary of the Ministry of Rural Development Lajos Bognar. Unlike many European Union countries, Hungary is a nation where genetically modified (GM) seeds are banned. In a similar stance against GM ingredients, Peru has also passed a 10 year ban on GM foods.
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“Good for them! I wish we’d at least pass a law in the US that requires companies to designate GMO ingredients.”
I agree. There are also a lot of concerns around how the big-agribusinesses are handling seed and such. More and more countries are rejecting genetically modified products or demanding to be told if such is the case.
1000 acres is a medium farm. Its the cross pollination that monsanto will charge you for.
1000 acres is a medium farm. Its the cross pollination that monsanto will charge you for.
Interesting coincidence to read this thread while at the same time reading a book from John Ringo call The Last Centurion. The book chronicles from the perspective of an Army officer the events of a near future killer outbreak of H5N1 that coincides with an emerging mini ice age. One of the subjects talks about a ban a liberal U.S. POTUS puts in on genmod seeds and the resulting chaos that ensues.
No, really? The next thing you know, they’ll be using GMO corn.
Please don’t lump me in with the foolish hippies who are too stoned to know what’s going on.
I was wondering what you thought was “good” about a ban, in Hungary, or possibly elsewhere.
You did call for labeling in America - but that wasn't the issue I addressed - I addressed you saying it was “good for them” to have a ban on GM crops.
I work as a Molecular Biologist. If you think working with advanced technology in developing cutting edge therapeutics would inoculate one from anti-technological mysticism - you haven't talked to some of the sillier people I work with.
Anti-technological mysticism is the idea that a beaver dam built for a beaver's purposes is a wonderful part of nature - while a human dam built for human purposes is an attack on pristine nature and certainly not a part of it.
Anti-technological mysticism posits that a ‘natural’ crop is going to be better than a GM crop - because ‘natural’ in and of itself is good and wonderful and anything that would detract from that is bad.
I see anti-technological mysticism as a major reflexive thought pattern. Once you know what it is you will start to notice it in more and more places.
Just remember - humans dying of cholera is perfectly “natural”. Humans being treated for cholera using advanced technology is not “natural”.
I know which I prefer.
I FOUND CANOLA! I'M GONNA DIE!!!!
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Monsanto and the other biggees like ADM (Archer, Daniels, Midland) etc., are genetically engineering farm foods with all sorts of claims about increased yield, resistance to drought, and so on, but their only real goal is to engineer hybrids the seeds of which will not germinate.
The net effect is that we can no longer grow our own seed stock, we have to go back and buy more germinatable seeds from them. It is an effort to exert more control over the general populace: control the food supply, and you control the people.
Screw these tyrant sphincters where they breathe, they should all be hung for treason. IMHO.
Hogwash, we were the leader long before artificial GM came along.
The main problem with GM crops is the way courts and the law have dealt with them as intellectual property to date. If a farmer plants non-GM crops in a field across the road from GM crops owned by Monsanto, and there is cross-pollinisation, then Monsanto can sue to confiscate or destroy the non-GM planting farmer’s crops.
GM itself isn’t the problem - Monsanto is.
Don't eat soybeans. Fermented soy products are OK, but just avoid everything with soy. You'll live longer.
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Oh, we can't to that. It might lead to evidence of problems related to GM foods.
What is genetically modified about such products Monsanto puts out is that the corn cannot go to seed.
That is to say, the farmers have to buy a new batch every year.
That is not a good thing.
There are people who are seriesly attempting to reduce the world's population. There's no better way to accomplish this goal than to control the production of food.
Especially something as vital as corn.
We better wake up. If you haven't already bought seeds that produce vegetables that can be propagated by its own seeds, you better get on the stick.
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“What is genetically modified about such products Monsanto puts out is that the corn cannot go to seed.”
I was reading a book last night where the author was talking about how corn could no longer propagate naturally because the husk would not permit it. In other words, without a human or animal to strip away the husk, it would just rot where it lay.
Who’s right in all of this? I have no idea.
Hungary is not the one “STUCK ON STUPID”.
They are trying right now.
seed holdback prevention clauses (where seed is not allowed to be used more than one year) should be void as a matter of law.
sorry i was just doing fyi.
“without question, the use of GMO crops can dramatically raise productivity = important in a world facing widespread food shortages”
This is a myth. The “shortage” is:
(1) not exactly in food/grain-crop production, as much as it is in distribution (getting, and paying to get, enough of the food [grains mostly] that is produced in surplus, to the places some of the excess of that surplus is needed, most;
(2) and not entirely a lack of aeriable land and sufficient water/and/or/precipitation for growing crops as much as it is the world’s food surpluses are cheaper than the prices that wpuld support local farmers in some places, because the abundance of cheap international, subsidized, surpluses depresses many local markets (in Ethiopia, trucks delivering U.S., European and South American highly subsidized food “aid” drive from their pick-up points to “aid centers”, passing on the highways warehouses of unsold local farm produce that cannot get contracts for that “aid” because they cannot compete with the “developed” world’s tax-payer subsidized farm surpluses, which discourages, not encourages, local farming - a fact that happens all over Africa).
GM foods have nothing to do with the world “growing enough” food; the earlier “green revolution” that used selective cross-breading and also brought many local and “wild” versions of crops (hardier crops) into that process, pretty much ended the idea that “enough” food could not be grown in the world, if issues involving other factors - economics, land, water - could end the hurdles that those issues alone provide.
GM food is not about the world growing enough food, it is ALL about making crops that create financial incentives for the use of other agricultural products - pesticides, fungicides, herbicides and fertilizers, by producing genes that make crops that work better with those things or that incorporate elements of those things into the genes themselves.
One result may be more production per acre, but that result alone stimulates demand for more fertilzer, as you can’t keep getting more out of the same plot of land if you don’t give it more fertilizers.
As the world now produces tons of surpluses it must subsidize in order to sell, producing “more” is simply, by itself, NOT the issue, and therefore NOT something GM-crops are in need of, or being put to, solving.
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