Posted on 01/30/2012 9:35:38 AM PST by Daffynition
SILVERTON Turkish sheepdogs prized for their fierceness are raising concerns they may be a little too tough for the southwest Colorado communities where ranchers are using them.
The Akbash dogs weigh up to 120 pounds and are especially aggressive toward animals near the sheep they guard. But that can include hikers and other backcountry tourists, prompting debate about whether the breed should be regulated.
The Durango Herald reports that Silverton town trustees met last week to discuss Akbash conflictsU.S. Forest Service officials, sheepherders and outdoors enthusiasts have also entered the debate over regulations surrounding the use of the breed.
(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...
The best breed for guarding sheep is the Toy Poodle.
If a Toy Poodle sees a wolf, he thinks,”Crap. He could kill me.” Then, he runs to the house and gets the rancher and says, “Man, you’ve got to get your gun. And I mean the big one with the long barrel. There’s a wolf up by the sheep.” Not great fighters, but smart enough to go for help.
Don’t have Chow experience, but the general rule is to allow ~5 to 15 minutes of accommodation/learning and then all is well. Not differencing with the dog’s commission will get you off easily.
Probably taken from the AKC standard, and he probably reads from that too, so yes, right on. :)
Not an American are you? Americans don't need permits to carry firearms on public range, either in forests or non-forested land. Yes, carrying a firearm is "allowed" on BLM land. I believe DesertRhino was saying if the dog attacked him he would shoot it. A simple case of self defense.
Well, you can never tell... You wouldn’t believe (or you might: I don’t know your experience here) the foreign (for lack of a better word) mindset and lack of common sense among the non-rural general populace, particularly if they are “transplants” from back east or the coasts, compared to natives of the western U.S. Especially if it involves something that they think they know all about (i.e. dogs). No disrespect intended here...
Dang, I can’t find it now, but was reading on one of these open-range stories, that a landowner in NM fenced his property to keep out the free-range cattle; in one place on his land, the fence had to go down a steep ravine; the ravine filled with water a couple f times a year, and the fence kept getting washed out.
So much for property rights, and maintaining them.
Thank you. And to be clear,, i wouldn’t want to hurt one of those fine dogs. It would be a last resort. But bites to my own corpus delecti must ALWAYS be prevented.
After posting and reading a bit about open-range, I have a greater appreciation of what you folks must deal with. I admire your persistence and courage.
Who, except for SWAT Teams wouldn't?
So if you can't put up a temporary shelter, implement the (beer) bee trap(s). How long could it take (including -splaining the issue)?
In this case, the landowner either needs to buy (or sell) the land at issue (or change the water flow - all sorts of gov't intervention at issue wid dat.).
” - - - entered the debate over regulations-— “
Since the sheepherders have leased the Federal land for grazing, should people be regulated to stay far away from grazing sheep?
I’m working on arranging my ski collection to build a number of Adirondack Chairs to be able to enjoy my “retirement”.
If we would have stayed I would have had to do something (and I would be asking you about a bee trap!) but the even worse thing is I was in the process of trying to sell that house and my husband had already moved across the country, so I was working full time and trying to keep everything going by myself. Fortunately the bees moved on and the house sold. I was told later that they are required legally to provide water for the bees, which they clearly weren’t doing, but I’m not sure if that’s correct. Wish I’d had my good camera then, I could have gotten some awesome photos, the bees would ring the pond to drink, it was sort of like a sci fi movie.
ARIZONA OPEN RANGE LAWS & LAND THEFT?
[I realize this article is dated, but the point remains.]
No, but Peeps need to stay away from flocks hanging out on the allocated public land.
Oh I miss my pond, hubby and I did all that work ourselves, it was something. The chairs, you will not believe, I paid I think $15.00 each for at Hobby Lobby unfinished and my son and I painted a coat of dark green and then a coat of yellow and *distressed* them by beating them with chains (for a shabby chic look). I still have them on my patio here, 10 years later and they are still awesome. I’d love to see photos of yours when you get them built! Love that style of chair, they are the most comfortable ever.
The land isn’t leased, the grazing rights are.
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