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Fierce sheepdogs alarming tourists in SW Colorado
AP via Freedom Communications, Inc. ^ | January 29, 2012 | staff reporter

Posted on 01/30/2012 9:35:38 AM PST by Daffynition

SILVERTON — Turkish sheepdogs prized for their fierceness are raising concerns they may be a little too tough for the southwest Colorado communities where ranchers are using them.

The Akbash dogs weigh up to 120 pounds and are especially aggressive toward animals near the sheep they guard. But that can include hikers and other backcountry tourists, prompting debate about whether the breed should be regulated.

The Durango Herald reports that Silverton town trustees met last week to discuss Akbash conflictsU.S. Forest Service officials, sheepherders and outdoors enthusiasts have also entered the debate over regulations surrounding the use of the breed.

(Excerpt) Read more at gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: doggieping; govtabuse; liberalfascism; lping; muslimsheepdogs; tyranny
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To: Daffynition

The best breed for guarding sheep is the Toy Poodle.
If a Toy Poodle sees a wolf, he thinks,”Crap. He could kill me.” Then, he runs to the house and gets the rancher and says, “Man, you’ve got to get your gun. And I mean the big one with the long barrel. There’s a wolf up by the sheep.” Not great fighters, but smart enough to go for help.


81 posted on 01/30/2012 11:58:29 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: brytlea

Don’t have Chow experience, but the general rule is to allow ~5 to 15 minutes of accommodation/learning and then all is well. Not differencing with the dog’s commission will get you off easily.


82 posted on 01/30/2012 12:00:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Probably taken from the AKC standard, and he probably reads from that too, so yes, right on. :)


83 posted on 01/30/2012 12:01:26 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Gaffer; DesertRhino
Do you have a permit?

Not an American are you? Americans don't need permits to carry firearms on public range, either in forests or non-forested land. Yes, carrying a firearm is "allowed" on BLM land. I believe DesertRhino was saying if the dog attacked him he would shoot it. A simple case of self defense.

84 posted on 01/30/2012 12:03:47 PM PST by calex59
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To: Paladin2

Well, you can never tell... You wouldn’t believe (or you might: I don’t know your experience here) the foreign (for lack of a better word) mindset and lack of common sense among the non-rural general populace, particularly if they are “transplants” from back east or the coasts, compared to natives of the western U.S. Especially if it involves something that they think they know all about (i.e. dogs). No disrespect intended here...


85 posted on 01/30/2012 12:05:51 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Paladin2

Dang, I can’t find it now, but was reading on one of these open-range stories, that a landowner in NM fenced his property to keep out the free-range cattle; in one place on his land, the fence had to go down a steep ravine; the ravine filled with water a couple f times a year, and the fence kept getting washed out.

So much for property rights, and maintaining them.


86 posted on 01/30/2012 12:06:18 PM PST by Daffynition (When I was a chiId was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it)
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To: calex59

Thank you. And to be clear,, i wouldn’t want to hurt one of those fine dogs. It would be a last resort. But bites to my own corpus delecti must ALWAYS be prevented.


87 posted on 01/30/2012 12:07:06 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Paladin2
Well, all of this wouldn't fit in the house.

Garden Waterfall

Little Garden

88 posted on 01/30/2012 12:07:57 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: stormer

After posting and reading a bit about open-range, I have a greater appreciation of what you folks must deal with. I admire your persistence and courage.


89 posted on 01/30/2012 12:10:57 PM PST by Daffynition (When I was a chiId was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it)
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To: WayneS
"Which, were I preparing to intrude on this dog's territory, would be warning enough for me... "

Who, except for SWAT Teams wouldn't?

90 posted on 01/30/2012 12:10:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: brytlea
Kool!..

So if you can't put up a temporary shelter, implement the (beer) bee trap(s). How long could it take (including -splaining the issue)?

91 posted on 01/30/2012 12:15:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Daffynition
There's no doubt that there are always issues.

In this case, the landowner either needs to buy (or sell) the land at issue (or change the water flow - all sorts of gov't intervention at issue wid dat.).

92 posted on 01/30/2012 12:20:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Daffynition

” - - - entered the debate over regulations-— “

Since the sheepherders have leased the Federal land for grazing, should people be regulated to stay far away from grazing sheep?


93 posted on 01/30/2012 12:24:27 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: brytlea

I’m working on arranging my ski collection to build a number of Adirondack Chairs to be able to enjoy my “retirement”.


94 posted on 01/30/2012 12:27:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

If we would have stayed I would have had to do something (and I would be asking you about a bee trap!) but the even worse thing is I was in the process of trying to sell that house and my husband had already moved across the country, so I was working full time and trying to keep everything going by myself. Fortunately the bees moved on and the house sold. I was told later that they are required legally to provide water for the bees, which they clearly weren’t doing, but I’m not sure if that’s correct. Wish I’d had my good camera then, I could have gotten some awesome photos, the bees would ring the pond to drink, it was sort of like a sci fi movie.


95 posted on 01/30/2012 12:28:23 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Paladin2
Or have the land taken from them....

ARIZONA OPEN RANGE LAWS & LAND THEFT?

[I realize this article is dated, but the point remains.]

96 posted on 01/30/2012 12:30:58 PM PST by Daffynition (When I was a chiId was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it)
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To: Graewoulf

No, but Peeps need to stay away from flocks hanging out on the allocated public land.


97 posted on 01/30/2012 12:31:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Oh I miss my pond, hubby and I did all that work ourselves, it was something. The chairs, you will not believe, I paid I think $15.00 each for at Hobby Lobby unfinished and my son and I painted a coat of dark green and then a coat of yellow and *distressed* them by beating them with chains (for a shabby chic look). I still have them on my patio here, 10 years later and they are still awesome. I’d love to see photos of yours when you get them built! Love that style of chair, they are the most comfortable ever.


98 posted on 01/30/2012 12:31:59 PM PST by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: RWGinger

The land isn’t leased, the grazing rights are.


99 posted on 01/30/2012 12:55:20 PM PST by stormer
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To: Capt. Tom

100 posted on 01/30/2012 1:09:02 PM PST by Daffynition (When I was a chiId was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it)
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