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1 posted on 12/03/2011 12:07:58 PM PST by wide meadow
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Implantation?!

Is that Newt's word or Jakes's? Or did I miss some new terminology? Sounds like farming or surgery.

2 posted on 12/03/2011 12:11:54 PM PST by taraytarah ( Get acquainted with a Proven Leader. HermanCainExpress.com)
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ah yes..the criminal liberal media searching again- where were all their stories on obama’s support of live birth abortion four years ago??? better yet where was the GOP pointing this out???

if Gingrich wants to combat this minor nuisance simply remind the people he is against abortion unlike the POS in the WH, who had a chance to stand up for infants born alive- but did not- and is now using tax $$$ of the American people in these tough times to pay for the choice of others, er i mean abortions...


3 posted on 12/03/2011 12:12:21 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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It may seem a technical point to some, but to those focused on abortion as an issue, it isn’t.

Focus on single issues such as abortion by conservatives will guarantee an 0bama reelection.

Lest we forget, nobody is perfect and we need leadership not perfection.

4 posted on 12/03/2011 12:12:56 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Newt’s overconfidence in himself could end up defeating his chances for victory, and this isn’t even including all of Newt’s problems with personal baggage and all of Newt’s problems with political baggage!


5 posted on 12/03/2011 12:14:02 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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ABC trying to start a fight amongst conservatives.


7 posted on 12/03/2011 12:14:28 PM PST by DManA
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I believe that Life begins at conception. I don’t know how you could possible argue that life begins at implantation, because from the point of view of the embryo, there is no distinction related to implantation. Implantation is like moving into a house; you are alive whether you have a roof over your head, or food on your plate.

This is important because it determines how you would treat embryonic stem cell research. If you don’t believe life begins until implantation, you can do what you want with an embryo. In fact, you could find a way to grow it outside the womb, and create non-living humans would could be your slaves or be divvied up for parts, according to that definition.

Now, on the matter of abortion, I have a view similar to Gingrich. I believe the embryo is a human, but I don’t believe the woman has an absolute responsibility to “raise” the child until it is successfully implanted. If the woman’s body rejects implantation (for whatever reason), she is not a murderer, and the embryo does not have to be treated as a dead child for purposes of burial or reporting.

Once the woman allows the baby to implant, it’s like she invited a homeless person into the house. If that person is starving, once you have taken responsibility for that person, you can’t just throw them out on the street — you will be guilty of homicide. You don’t have a responsibility for taking care of people, but once you accept responsibility, you are liable until you can find other arrangements.


8 posted on 12/03/2011 12:15:40 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Why would he convert to a religion he doesn’t believe in?


9 posted on 12/03/2011 12:16:04 PM PST by WPaCon
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Newt is probably referring to In Vitro Fertilization - which begins in the lab’s petri dish and then is IMPLANTED in the womb. Since several embryos are implanted they should all be considered LIVE BABIES IN THE WOMB. But many are discarded before implantation and many are removed to avoid multiple births.

Perhaps he is trying to prevent aborted IVF fetuses.


10 posted on 12/03/2011 12:20:17 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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How can it not be alive before implantation? Dead things don’t grow do they?


11 posted on 12/03/2011 12:20:59 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Ah, the media searching for any crack into which to shove a pry bar.

Implantation is not the Catholic teaching, however, it is not an illogical argument either (like abortion is).

It is a bit like arguing over whether an acorn is an Oak tree. There is some logic behind arguing it is not when it is yet to germinate, but there is no logical argument once the acorn has produced a root and a leaf.

17 posted on 12/03/2011 12:23:39 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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ABC News, eh?

THEY didn't waste much time shifting fire to the perceived GOP front runner after disposing of Cain.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

20 posted on 12/03/2011 12:26:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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It may seem a technical point to some, but to those focused on abortion as an issue, it isn’t.

So hope ABC News and the rest of the MSM.

25 posted on 12/03/2011 12:26:55 PM PST by cynwoody
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I like Newt just fine, but he’s a Catholic in the way that Pelosi is a Catholic—when he decides to call himself one. Doesn’t make it true.


30 posted on 12/03/2011 12:33:33 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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The pill prevents implantation of a fertilized egg.

IOW, Noot is for birth control, which is also against Catholic doctrine.

But we all knew his "conversion" was a cynical political calculation intended to redeem him for his past sins.

34 posted on 12/03/2011 12:37:54 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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No he can’t!


37 posted on 12/03/2011 12:45:54 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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Newt Gingrich: ... I think that if you take a position when a woman has (a) fertilized egg and that’s been successfully implanted that now you’re dealing with life. because otherwise you’re going to open up an extraordinary range of very difficult questions.

Sleazy TAPPER: So implantation is the moment for you. [Notice please that Tapper purposely mishcaracterized the discussion so that the devil's servant, Tapper, could paint this as Newt not believing the pre-implantation embryonic being is a human being. The discussion was over when the line, sharpest line needs to be drawn, to protect nascent life with law. Jake Tapper is a seravnt of the father of lies, a murderer fromt he start.]

Newt GINGRICH: Implantation and successful implantation. In addition I would say that I’ve never been for embryonic stem cell research per se. I have been for, there are a lot of different ways to get embryonic stem cells. I think if you can get embryonic stem cells for example from placental blood if you can get it in ways that do not involve the loss of a life that’s a perfectly legitimate avenue of approach.

What I reject is the idea that we’re going to take one life for the purpose of doing research for other purposes and I think that crosses a threshold of de-humanizing us that’s very very dangerous.

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Jake Tapper, had he ever questioned little blackberry bassturd boy's ardent defense of partial birth infanticide and the democrap party using abortion as an empowerment scheme, might have some credibility. But as it is, Tapper is the same pondscum as the rest of the dead soul servants of the father of lies. And now freepers who have this inner hate for Newt Gingrich will seize upon this purposed deception as a means to crucify Gingrich, proving once again that some at Freerepublic are so easily herded along to their doom.

39 posted on 12/03/2011 12:49:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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It may seem a technical point to some, but to those focused on abortion as an issue, it isn’t.

The difference between fertilization and implementation in his definition creates wiggle room to deny that the pill causes abortion, which it does, and allows "emergency contreception," a scientific nonsense term that the embryo can be killed after conception and still be a "contraceptive" with such drugs as RU-486.

45 posted on 12/03/2011 1:02:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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That all? Implantation can easily mean sperm fertilizing the egg. Whether from a man or a lab procedure.


48 posted on 12/03/2011 1:16:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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Newt is wrong and confused. Biologically life begins at Conception. There at that time is a one cell living organism. That is a fact. The Medical Term Pregancy begins at implantation. Not life. He is getting wiggly. Now if you are a liberal life is begins at alot of different stages. Have your pick. Consciousness, When the developing fetus feels pain, at birth, when the female carrying it says it does or maybe at 2 years of age. Men shut up.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 1:31:53 PM PST by therut
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Technically it does begin at fertilization but if it fails to implant there will be no baby....Many do fail to implant without anyone interfering.


51 posted on 12/03/2011 1:39:21 PM PST by chris_bdba
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