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Gingrich Breaks from Catholic Church on when Life Begins
ABC News ^ | Dec 2, 2011 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 12/03/2011 12:07:46 PM PST by wide meadow

It may seem a technical point to some, but to those focused on abortion as an issue, it isn’t.

Breaking from groups that believe human life begins at the moment an egg is fertilized — also the position of the Catholic Church, of which he is a member — former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told ABC News he believes life begins at implantation.

But he expressed confidence that he can win the vote of anti-abortion activists despite this difference.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; candidates; gingrich; gop; newt; newtgingrich
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are spewing pure sophistry. Conservatives aren’t against birth control. And neither is the Catholic Church... The Church recommends using calendar-based contraceptive methods, otherwise known as the rhythm method.

Anyway, something tells me you are a Democrat and you’re just trying to stir up trouble. Republicans are much more intelligent than you are.


41 posted on 12/03/2011 12:51:36 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh my God not BIRTH CONTROL!!

Kill Gingrich, better yet vote Obama!

Some percentage of you are preposterous.

Do you think a conservative judge appointed by Gingrich will be hearing an “implantation” case ?


42 posted on 12/03/2011 12:52:00 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: GeronL
Some issues are deal killers though.

Of late, the only one that wouldn't be in a position of deal killing as a candidate is "The Pinball Wizard".

43 posted on 12/03/2011 12:56:16 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Williams
Oh my God not BIRTH CONTROL!! Kill Gingrich, better yet vote Obama! Some percentage of you are preposterous. Do you think a conservative judge appointed by Gingrich will be hearing an “implantation” case ?

You are a retard.

And yes, I know it is insensitive to use that word, but sometimes it just fits.

Now run back to your tree and swing from some vines.

44 posted on 12/03/2011 1:01:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: wide meadow
It may seem a technical point to some, but to those focused on abortion as an issue, it isn’t.

The difference between fertilization and implementation in his definition creates wiggle room to deny that the pill causes abortion, which it does, and allows "emergency contreception," a scientific nonsense term that the embryo can be killed after conception and still be a "contraceptive" with such drugs as RU-486.

45 posted on 12/03/2011 1:02:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: DManA
ABC trying to start a fight amongst conservatives.

Yep. Axelrod's plans are rolling out to perfection.

46 posted on 12/03/2011 1:07:52 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: God luvs America

If life begins at fertilization, then I guess that means the catholic church is for in vitro fertilization?

I mean how does a woman know she’s pregnant if there is no implantation? If life begins at fertilization, which I guess technically it does, then the day after pill is an abortion pill.

If life begins at fertilization, then if you have in vitro fertilization, i.e. multiple embyros, then destroying some of those embryos is abortion?

I think we’re getting away from the real issue, i.e. how do you feel about ending a pregnancy? Newt is clearly against that.


47 posted on 12/03/2011 1:11:00 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: wide meadow

That all? Implantation can easily mean sperm fertilizing the egg. Whether from a man or a lab procedure.


48 posted on 12/03/2011 1:16:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: MHGinTN

Thank you for the transcript.

‘Conception’ is not mentioned - only ‘implantation’ and a subsequent post describes the journey from fallopian tube to uterus.

IVF was my first train of thought - but that does not appear to have been discussed.

Thx again.


49 posted on 12/03/2011 1:22:43 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: wide meadow

Newt is wrong and confused. Biologically life begins at Conception. There at that time is a one cell living organism. That is a fact. The Medical Term Pregancy begins at implantation. Not life. He is getting wiggly. Now if you are a liberal life is begins at alot of different stages. Have your pick. Consciousness, When the developing fetus feels pain, at birth, when the female carrying it says it does or maybe at 2 years of age. Men shut up.


50 posted on 12/03/2011 1:31:53 PM PST by therut
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To: wide meadow

Technically it does begin at fertilization but if it fails to implant there will be no baby....Many do fail to implant without anyone interfering.


51 posted on 12/03/2011 1:39:21 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: EGPWS

Amen!While I am very anti abortion I realize that if we don’t save the republic first it will be a moot point.


52 posted on 12/03/2011 1:40:48 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: DManA

“ABC trying to start a fight amongst conservatives.”

Exactly. They are a bit premature, though, since Newt doesn’t yet have the nomination.


53 posted on 12/03/2011 1:45:17 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: chris_bdba

The issue under discussion was the point at which law should be invoked to protect nascent life. The Catholic Church seeks to protect nascent life from the moment of conception onward. That is, sadly, not a possibility with law, at this point in human History. Someday, humankind might learn to remove an embryonic aged human even beofre implantation and gestate that little one to natural birth age. We are not there yet. But Science is approaching that point, albeit for selfish financial reasons. In Japan, researchers have kept a placental goat alive artificially for seventeen weeks, to natural birth age, IIRC. And that was years ago, so they may have improved on even that ability.


54 posted on 12/03/2011 1:48:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Yes I am Catholic and know that...I was just pointing out if it fails to implant.If we ever get to that point then the pro aborts will have to finally admit that it is all bait killing the child and little to do with anything else.


55 posted on 12/03/2011 2:03:24 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: MHGinTN

Yes I am Catholic and know that...I was just pointing out if it fails to implant.If we ever get to that point then the pro aborts will have to finally admit that it is all about killing the child and little to do with anything else.


56 posted on 12/03/2011 2:03:48 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Does the Catholic Church support your insensitivity and your mocking of the less fortunate? I think not. Surely you know the Church teaches us to value every life, and that Christ told us to turn the other cheek. yet you strike out in anger.

You will never be President. Or Pope.


57 posted on 12/03/2011 2:19:53 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: EGPWS

“Lest we forget, nobody is perfect and we need leadership not perfection.”

Newt has neither. Next applicant, please.


58 posted on 12/03/2011 2:22:48 PM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: Williams
You will never be President. Or Pope.

Nor will you, Skippy.

59 posted on 12/03/2011 2:22:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemyÂ’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not running and neither is Palin. Now let’s win this thing and not fall into media traps.

I am not a Newt supporter, I wasn’t a Cain suporter, etc. Actually I was a Palin supporter but I will vote for any of them against Obama.


60 posted on 12/03/2011 2:29:25 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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