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We Have Our Own eCat Says Defkalion
Ecatnews.com ^ | 11/20/11 | Admin

Posted on 11/20/2011 3:01:21 PM PST by Liberty1970

We Have Our Own eCat Says Defkalion November 20, 2011 | Author: admin

An article in the Greek publication Tovima quotes Defkalion’s Alexander Xanthoulis as saying that the company has the eCat technology independent of Rossi and is almost ready to roll. They claim that their system is stable and that Rossi’s is not. According to their version of the split, that instability was at its centre and that AR did not demonstrate the eCat to the required specification – that of a stable run lasting at least 48 hours.

Tovima Googlated:

“We not only continue our program and we are almost ready, with technology that precedes that of Rossi during a year. Specifically, within the next 15 days there will be announcements and initiated testing and certification by independent third parties. We will present the final product – not just a laboratory prototype – with all its subsystems to operate according to European safety standards. ”

“And the catalyst?” We asked. “It’s not supposed to be secret Rossi?”

“All the technology used in devices at the Hyperion KW and systems 1 to 5MW are our own design – different from those of Rossi” he replied. “As for the control, was already our own design and construction, and Mr. Rossi has signed acceptance certificate shows that it is ours. Even in the recent trial in October when he used some modules of our own design. However, the main and big difference in our device than that of Rossi is that our system is stable in performance, while that of Rossi or the last test failed to yield stable for more than five and a half hours. ”

- So the rift between you was not due only to non-payment of first installment repayment, said Mr. Rossi?

“Not sure. We had finished the 15 million dollars of first dose, but Mr. Rossi did not sign the protocol of receipt, asking him to meet parameters such as the stable operation of the device for at least 48 hours. This was the real cause of the interruption of cooperation, but not celebrated in the media because they want to continue a deleterious confrontation. Us us interested in real progress, and this success. The technology will present a few days the world will be entirely Greek and appreciate its contribution to the overthrow of what exists in the energy market. “

That sounds to me like a legal defence in preparation.

The article adds a few gems of information that – if true – shed a little light on the politics behind eCat’s birth. According to Tovima:

2007: Rossi meets Piantelli and seek its cooperation. He refuses, but Rossi associate itself with the Focardi.

Isn’t that something?

The race to market is now on. For some investors, simply knowing if this thing is true or not is extremely valuable. If DGT is to be believed, the Hyperion will soon form a second locus around which the new energy world will turn. Interested buyers can go to Rossi for proof or to Defkalion – both under escrow protection.

The movie plays on.

More in the article.

[With thanks to Arian]


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: canr; cmns; coldfusion; defaults; defkalion; ecat; iberian; lenr; magic; rossi; show
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One of the things that is hard to square with the notion of Rossi perpetrating a hoax is the appearance of competition with him using the same technology. This is a good thing from a consumer and free-market competition angle, for sure, and can only hasten the widespread availability of fusion reactors if real.
1 posted on 11/20/2011 3:01:22 PM PST by Liberty1970
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To: Kevmo

*Ping* This is interesting, if Defkalion really has the goods and without infringing on a Rossi patent.


2 posted on 11/20/2011 3:03:26 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Liberty1970

MIT Class Offering: Starting 2012 with Cold Fusion 101

http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/start-2012-with-cold-fusion-101/

A new short course on cold fusion science and technology sponsored by the Engineering and Computer Science departments at Massachusetts Institute of Technology will be held in January 2012 during institute’s Independent Activities Period.

Designed for MIT students, Cold Fusion 101: Introduction to Excess Power in Fleischmann-Pons Experiments addresses the early history of cold fusion science beginning with the analysis of the original palladium-deuterium type systems that Drs. Fleischmann and Pons used in their research during the late 1980s.


3 posted on 11/20/2011 3:14:04 PM PST by Sundog (When Hollywood defines reality there is no reality.)
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To: Liberty1970

The translation of these posts makes a confusing situation even more so.


4 posted on 11/20/2011 3:17:45 PM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Liberty1970
These two aren't the only companies ready to roll something out there. At the same time none of them seem to be too sure of what it is they are doing but it doesn't have hard radiation and doesn't leave behind radioactive isotopes.

The North Koreans appear to have an atomic bomb design that does pretty much the same thing which requires them to spread around radioactive isotopes pulled out of their nuclear reactors in some sort of attempt to trick us. Did you realize that they blew up one of these bombs called "the Great Fizzle", and a few months later walked back into the cavern with yet another bomb ~ no one was irradiated!

The Iranians have some sort of atom bomb program going on and the other day they are said to have blown up 20 sq. miles of a military base where they do their atomic research ~ killed their top guy and a bunch of his scientists. They continue to search for bodies ~ and we must presume they are just dead, possibly parboiled, not crispy!

In the mix of news we now find that a research group has confirmed that you can catch virtual particles appearing in "the vacuum", tag a touch of energy to them and lo and behold you get TWO PHOTON SOURCES.

These events may all be of a piece with Wintogreen Mints crunched in front of a mirror in a darkened room, or x-rays emitted by Scotch tape pulled off the roll in a vacuum.

The difference is some are scaled up and some seem to be "controlled" and yet two groups none of us like, Iran and North Korea, may be using the process to make theatre weapons that leave no radioactive residue.

It's certainly a Brave New World ~ and it's coming down fast.

5 posted on 11/20/2011 3:17:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Liberty1970

Assuming that Rossi is amenable to being bought out, rather than risk going to court to defend his invention, Defkalion would probably be interested in either buying him out or bringing onboard and pay him a generous salary.

It’s usually cheaper and better for both parties that way.


6 posted on 11/20/2011 3:22:48 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Liberty1970

Rossi has been refused patent protection in most places.

If the technology is real, no government would want a foreign patent holder to be able to lock their economies out of equal access, and if it hasn’t worked then no patent would be granted either.

Still waiting for one of these things to show up in public use, if real.
Also enjoying watching the naysayers stick their necks out.


7 posted on 11/20/2011 3:25:46 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: muawiyah

Interesting. How does this differ from the neutron bombs that were talked about in the past. Level a city and re-inhabit it shortly?


8 posted on 11/20/2011 3:27:41 PM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: arkady_renko
The big difference between the proposed Neutron Bomb and this is that the Neutron Bomb was your regular old fashioned Strong Nuclear Force run away fission fission device.

These guys may have tapped into a couple of otherwise hidden energy sources ~ the Weak Nuclear Force or "the vacuum" where there are all these virtual particules bopping around going in and out of reality just waiting to be actualized. In neither situation would you get much hard radiation although you might quickly figure out how to open a portal to another dimension where they've got a planetary scale landfill operation working and there goes the neighborhood at this end of our galaxy.

9 posted on 11/20/2011 3:33:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: All

I’m buying my E-cat from Acme Corp. The same place a wily coyote buys his goods from. I don’t want to stop a roadrunner, just go off grid.


10 posted on 11/20/2011 3:34:06 PM PST by BipolarBob (Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world and she walks into mine.)
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To: muawiyah

Tesla. He was sure that something could travel FTL. But at that time, there were no “particle” physics. So he concerned his thoughts to waves. Toward the very end of his life, he was working on disproving Einstein’s theory that nothing could travel FTL. Now Cern has found neutrinos exceeding FTL. Could get interesting!


11 posted on 11/20/2011 3:34:25 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Liberty1970
But the Greek Co. said,

“All the technology used in devices at the Hyperion KW and systems 1 to 5MW are our own design – different from those of Rossi”...

Do they have something different from or only more refined than Rossi?

12 posted on 11/20/2011 3:34:55 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Yes, somebody ~ or a bunch of somebodies ~ has stepped over the line into a new technology dealing with otherwise little researched physics.

If people think the economy stinks now wait until we have free steam heat ~ and personal deathrays.

13 posted on 11/20/2011 3:38:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“wait until we have free steam heat ~ and personal deathrays.”

I want one!. “Hey! You kids! Get offa my grass!. ZZZZZZap!”


14 posted on 11/20/2011 3:43:02 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
The neutrinos obviously start out here ~ (which is why we know about them) ~ disappear into somewhere else (unzer space) and pop out in the same line further down the road ~ but unzer space has a higher speed limit.

It's a trick done with smoke and mirrors.

Next experiment, explained the same way is the neutrinos appear here, disappear so fast we don't notice, and show up BEFORE they've appeared. Again, a trick but one that makes it look like they go backwards in time.

15 posted on 11/20/2011 3:45:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Kinda like Tachyons.


16 posted on 11/20/2011 3:55:29 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: muawiyah
'...and there goes the neighborhood at this end of our galaxy.'

Iranians hoping to bring in the Mahdi?

17 posted on 11/20/2011 3:57:05 PM PST by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
There are currently no entries for the term "unzer space" ~ which means IT'S MY WORD ~ WOW!

Not the first time though.

Actually, the ancient Hindus intuited the structure ~ they called it "Earth" which was bound between "The Heavenly Realm" and "The Demon Realm". Buddhism expanded on that a bit, and Zoroaster kind of turned it into a Dualist sort of Heavenly existence where you had the God of Light and the God of Dark ~ but as an explanatory tool it was all pretty much the same thing.

One of the major discoveries of our time is that of "the Vacuum". It's filled to the brim with particles that flit in and out of existence. It's a vast storehouse of energy. Doesn't matter where you go it's there ~ and if you tweek it just right those particles will pop out for a short time and then go back in.

The physicist/mathematicians (the high priests of our time) determined that we would be able to trap some of these virtual particles in pairs ~ due to their nature as either MATTER or ANTIMATTER ~ it's supposed to look like two phtons.

So, they did just that ~ and that satisifies the ancient's view of existence ~ two realms, and reality ~ we are in reality but we can communicate, sort of, with the other two realms.

There are "creatures there". They can walk in on us and make your virginal daughters instantly pregnant ~ and that sort of thing. Or they can just appear out of nothing and send us messages about going to church and so forth ~ then disappear.

They may be interested in our need for steam heat for apartment buildings in fact.

There should also be some situations where the folks on the other side do not intend good outcomes for our efforts.

18 posted on 11/20/2011 4:08:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: arkady_renko
Iranians most likely have not been working on a bomb but rather on an intradimensional mobile reality lounge.

I think they screwed up big time.

19 posted on 11/20/2011 4:11:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Liberty1970
The E-Cat story is starting to look like a spaghetti western.




20 posted on 11/20/2011 5:06:19 PM PST by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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